cgksheff Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Anna B said: This was a hospital doctor, working for the NHS, discussing the placement of a patient from an NHS hospital to a private hospital because there were no other places. The number of places had actually been cut because funding wasn't available. The relationship between the NHS and private suppliers is incestuous. The private hospitals could not survive without the NHS surgeons and consultants that line their pockets by playing for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 13 hours ago, fools said: Before you join the profession, you should know exactly how it's going to be, so stop moaning or leave. It's well paid, if that doesn't compensate you for the stress, you have the option of leaving. It should come as no surprise that many jobs are difficult, and stressful, that's life, don't like it, leave. Same with the teachers. I know some who said they'd give up 10 years ago - yet they're still teaching. And the half a dozen who took early retirement, had the leaving do on a Friday, but were back as supply teachers on Monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 My ex brother in law’s wife was a teacher , his brother was a teacher . All we ever heard was poor pay , long hours etc . Guess what, he became a teacher , then joined in with the poor pay , long hours etc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromedary Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 10 hours ago, cgksheff said: The relationship between the NHS and private suppliers is incestuous. https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/articles/big-election-questions-nhs-privatised?gclid=CjwKCAjw14uVBhBEEiwAaufYx-LMeHk0gxDt7TOLX2gjdmmt1HWein1ZzohohTZCwGRiV82qc5Q_ERoCwJoQAvD_BwE 10 hours ago, cgksheff said: The private hospitals could not survive without the NHS surgeons and consultants that line their pockets by playing for both sides. Like any job it's about money. They could of course leave the UK and go elsewhere where pay and conditions are far better than here. A great deal of NHS staff also work part time in private hospitals and again that is a way of generating money so I can't actually see a problem. If we want top quality then we have to pay the price to keep people employed in the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 09/06/2022 at 11:40, Anna B said: (…) Your comments? By the mounting and cumulative evidence of anecdotal private testimonies, mostly by GPs and urgentists, they’ll probably strike. The Tory media machine will spin public opinion against them, filling print pages and airwaves with misrepresentating and disinforming stereotypes (posts in this thread are evidence of the fact aplenty already). Still more patients will die needlessly, than are already doing in non-trivial numbers, and than would otherwise do. The government will eventually u-turn, as they have done every time about everything for the past few years, reliable as a Swiss clock. And the problem will fester on afresh, between ever more people getting still older (look at Brit demographics for a minute), staff leaving the public healthcare sector for private at home or abroad, and immigrant staff looking at jobs twice, between job/residency access hurdles, the falling £ and xenophobia signalling. Maybe the solution is shipping the sick and the old to Rwanda. Better climate, more staff-infrastructure-etc. for bucks, and just as democratic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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