Chekhov Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Not that I think the sex of a political leader is of any relevance whatsoever, but : Woman leaders of the main political parties : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Woman prime minister : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 * And always banging on about minority rights and feminism etc Edited September 5, 2022 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Chekhov said: Not that I think the sex of a political leader is of any relevance whatsoever, but : Woman leaders of the main political parties : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 You can sit back and relax for a bit. Watch Liz being driven around in her new Audi A8, whilst she removes speed limits on motorways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, Chekhov said: Not that I think the sex of a political leader is of any relevance whatsoever, but : Woman leaders of the main political parties : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Woman prime minister : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 * And always banging on about minority rights and feminism etc https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/gender/parliament Labour has more female MPs and obviously a much higher percentage of female MPs than the Conservatives. That for me is a more telling statistic. It would seem that the current batch of male Tory MPs have proved ineffective and alllowed May and Truss In by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Chekhov said: Not that I think the sex of a political leader is of any relevance whatsoever, but : Woman leaders of the main political parties : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Woman prime minister : The Labour party with its (now illegal) all women shortlists* = 0 The Tory party = 3 * And always banging on about minority rights and feminism etc Given your thread title is "Meritocracy V 'Positive Discrimination'", I'd say only one of the Tory female leaders/PMs counts as having got there through merit (Thatcher). The others might not have got there trough positive discrimination but it certainly wasn't though merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, RJRB said: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/gender/parliament Labour has more female MPs and obviously a much higher percentage of female MPs than the Conservatives. That for me is a more telling statistic. It would seem that the current batch of male Tory MPs have proved ineffective and alllowed May and Truss In by default. TBH I do not give a toss whether our PM, or my MP, is a woman or not, why should I ? And that is the ultimate proof of not being discriminatory. 29 minutes ago, altus said: Given your thread title is "Meritocracy V 'Positive Discrimination'", I'd say only one of the Tory female leaders/PMs counts as having got there through merit (Thatcher). The others might not have got there trough positive discrimination but it certainly wasn't though merit. Err no, it was Labour that had (and probably still has) discriminatory selection policies. And I thought they are now deemed illegal ! Edited September 5, 2022 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 True. But I'm not sure that it matters much who leads the Labour Party unless and until it's a credible alternative for being elected to govern the UK. Still, it's odd that its plethora of females [see RJRB's note that "Labour has more female MPs and obviously a much higher percentage of female MPs than the Conservatives."] has never yet produced a female leader. Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 And you don't think that merit should be an enabler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Chekhov said: Not that I think the sex of a political leader is of any relevance whatsoever, but : Everything is relevant. Will voters be more likely to vote for a beautiful/ugly, black/white/brown, obese//slim, bald/combover/hairy? Everything is relevant. I believe beautiful people tend to be more intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, El Cid said: Everything is relevant. Will voters be more likely to vote for a beautiful/ugly, black/white/brown, obese//slim, bald/combover/hairy? Everything is relevant. I believe beautiful people tend to be more intelligent. You're not wrong there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Chekhov said: TBH I do not give a toss whether our PM, or my MP, is a woman or not, why should I ? And that is the ultimate proof of not being discriminatory. Me neither,but you were trying to make a point regarding the position of women in the major parties which doesn’t stand scrutiny, Why raise the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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