ECCOnoob Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Anna B said: Reaching Manchester Airport at all in winter is hit and miss, when there's snow over the Pennines. And Manchester Airport is well past its sell-by date, in fact it's a dump. If the government is serious about 'Levelling up,' they could do worse than turn Doncaster Sheffield Airport into a State of the art Northern hub of Heathrow. Doncaster Sheffield with its central position has a huge catchment area with access to motorways and with its super long runway (longest in Europe) it could become a major International Airport to the East of the Pennines, linking it with Europe and the Far East, and big enough to take the big Air Bus planes for long haul International flights all over the world. It has space for the necessary buildings and infrastructure it would need, and attract international commerce and business to the North, easing the strangle hold and over crowding that is causing a crisis in London and the south east. Last time I checked Anna, Manchester is in the North. As is Leeds Bradford as is Liverpool...some would argue, as is East Midlands. All established airports performing far better than Doncaster Sheffield ever did, even at its absolute peak. Manchester in particular already has a nice established relationship with a number of large international flag carrier airlines and handles vast numbers of passengers numbers. That 'levelling up' in the north you speak of has been demonstrated by MA's recent billion pound renovation of its main terminal and further multi-million fund raised to complete it's transformation project so someone's random opinion that it's an outdated dump is quite frankly irrelevant. (For balance, Sheffield too has received plenty of 'levelling up' monies including huge government grants towards the regeneration of Castlegate and all the building works around Attercliffe Olympic Park and funds to create the new cycleways and monies for what's happening right now on fargate for examples) Maybe you feel they should have been spent on donny airport instead but just why exactly should the government pee away taxpayer monies to try and prop up failed Doncaster when history has proven the business case is not there If private enterprise failed to attract big airlines and failed to increase its already dismal passengers numbers what the hell do you think has changed so dramatically to make it viable now? Edited September 17, 2023 by ECCOnoob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: so someone's random opinion that it's an outdated dump is quite frankly irrelevant Terminal 1 is a dump though, but it's meant to be closing at some point thankfully. A woefully inadequate terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busdriver1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Anna B said: Reaching Manchester Airport at all in winter is hit and miss, when there's snow over the Pennines. And Manchester Airport is well past its sell-by date, in fact it's a dump. If the government is serious about 'Levelling up,' they could do worse than turn Doncaster Sheffield Airport into a State of the art Northern hub of Heathrow. Doncaster Sheffield with its central position has a huge catchment area with access to motorways and with its super long runway (longest in Europe) it could become a major International Airport to the East of the Pennines, linking it with Europe and the Far East, and big enough to take the big Air Bus planes for long haul International flights all over the world. It has space for the necessary buildings and infrastructure it would need, and attract international commerce and business to the North, easing the strangle hold and over crowding that is causing a crisis in London and the south east. All well and good but the carriers all have established themselves elsewhere in airports with bigger catchment areas and within striking distance of our region. As has been shown very clearly they don't want to give up a place at a thriving hub to take a chance on a comparatively remote location with a much reduced catchment area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Anna B said: its super long runway (longest in Europe) Are you just making stuff up now? It's not even the 5th longest in the UK. Ignoring all of the RAF and private airfields it would be the 9th longest, about 25% shorter than both of Heathrows runways. It's the exact same length as EMA. Now add in all the ones from other countries... Edited September 17, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossway Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Anna B said: super long runway (longest in Europe No it's certainly not the longest in Europe - it's around 9500 feet whereas the two parallel runways at Heathrow are over 12000 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Mossway said: No it's certainly not the longest in Europe - it's around 9500 feet whereas the two parallel runways at Heathrow are over 12000 ft. As covered above. Manchester (both), Heathrow (both), Gatwick, Prestwick, Birmingham and Stansted all have longer runways, some substantially so. And that's before you include the likes of RAF Brize Norton and the non-international airport at Campbelltown, both with longer runways than DSA. Now maybe Anna meant the WIDEST runway, which it may well be, not bothering to check as its a meaningless metric really. A380s can land on runways much narrower than the one at DSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, HeHasRisen said: Are you just making stuff up now? It's not even the 5th longest in the UK. Ignoring all of the RAF and private airfields it would be the 9th longest, about 25% shorter than both of Heathrows runways. It's the exact same length as EMA. Now add in all the ones from other countries... In the UK, Doncaster (Finningley) comes in at number 17 of 'Active' runways for length (I assume the table was pre-closure) NB: EMA (East Midlands and DSA (Doncaster) are in the wrong positions on the table, EMA is 1ft longer than DSA as tabled data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Longest in Europe 😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) On 17/09/2023 at 01:32, Anna B said: and with its super long runway (longest in Europe) Are we going to address this false claim based on the above posts? Edited September 20, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 BBC News - Doncaster Sheffield Airport could reopen as council agrees rescue plan https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-66864889 I mean, have they actually talked to any major airlines about if they would use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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