trastrick Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, altus said: The Republicans don't want to actually stop illegal immigration. Who would work below minimum wage levels on their farms, etc? They just want to be able to complain about it for electoral purposes. Don't forget the millionaire Democrats and celebs, with their mutli mansions, yachts, and private jets. Pelosi has her Napa Valley Winery Estate, or does she pick her own grapes? Obama has his rich liberal playground mansion in Martha's Vineyard. They practice the fine art of "social distancing" too. From their constituents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, altus said: The Republicans don't want to actually stop illegal immigration. Who would work below minimum wage levels on their farms, etc? They just want to be able to complain about it for electoral purposes. Republican want Immigration Reform too. Reform that include some right wing stuff, like effective border control, and respect for law and order. Seems to be missing right now! See: TIME The Most Explosive Issue.' Republicans Reveal Immigration Agenda Ahead of Midterms https://time.com/6215753/house-republicans-immigration-plan/ And https://www.republicansforimmigrationreform.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, trastrick said: Republican want Immigration Reform too. Reform that include some right wing stuff, like effective border control, and respect for law and order. Seems to be missing right now! See: TIME The Most Explosive Issue.' Republicans Reveal Immigration Agenda Ahead of Midterms https://time.com/6215753/house-republicans-immigration-plan/ And https://www.republicansforimmigrationreform.org/ Your TIME article says they will make a big noise about being tough on illegal immigration but be deliberately vague on what they might actually do. It doesn't actually say they recognise a need favour significant immigration. Whilst the other link does have bits in favour of some immigration, doesn't have any quotes from Republican politicians newer than a decade ago. Even their newest 'news' link is from 2013. Fair to say, if it's not been updated for a decade it's unlikely to be indicative of current Republican policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, trastrick said: Reform that include some right wing stuff, like effective border control, and respect for law and order. Seems to be missing right now! As per altus's response, such an important policy position they haven't thought about it at all, for over a decade. Also, the notion that any Trump cheerleader could possibly claim "respect law and order", at this stage... ...I mean, simply priceless! Who're you trying to kid? You have to be a special kind of special to believe a word of that! Edited October 18, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Magilla said: As per altus's response, such an important policy position they haven't thought about it at all, for over a decade. Lol Such "special" nonsense doesn't deserve a serious response, but I'm having fun here, so what the heck! Well we've seen Biden's Immigration Policy in action for the last 2 years. Republicans. See: National Immigration Forum GOP Immigration Bill a Promising Step for Bipartisan Reform February 20, 1922 WASHINGTON, D.C. — "Today Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Florida) is introducing an immigration reform bill called the Dignity Act..." Deep sixed by Pelosi But if they win Congress in November, they'll hit the ground running. The HIll August 7, 2022 House GOP immigration framework would be a promising start "The GOP says it would restart construction on a border wall, undo Biden-era immigration policies and ramp up oversight." (on day 1) https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/3588109-house-gop-immigration-framework-would-be-a-promising-start/ TIME The Most Explosive Issue.' Republicans Reveal Immigration Agenda Ahead of Midterms https://time.com/6215753/house-republicans-immigration-plan/ Note: For you "special" folks, "GOP" refers to the Republican Party. Maybe that's why you missed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, trastrick said: Such "special" nonsense doesn't deserve a serious response, but I'm having fun here, so what the heck! It is true though Quote Republicans. See: National Immigration Forum GOP Immigration Bill a Promising Step for Bipartisan Reform February 20, 1922 1922! Republican politician says Republican proposals are good... Quote Deep sixed by Pelosi Really? When did that happen? Quote The HIll August 7, 2022 House GOP immigration framework would be a promising start "The GOP says it would restart construction on a border wall, undo Biden-era immigration policies and ramp up oversight." (on day 1) https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/3588109-house-gop-immigration-framework-would-be-a-promising-start/ Again, right wing pundit says Republican policies needed, but it turns out it's more of exactly the same as last time (that didn't work), and ignores the real issues as per my previous post. Quote TIME The Most Explosive Issue.' Republicans Reveal Immigration Agenda Ahead of Midterms https://time.com/6215753/house-republicans-immigration-plan/ ...and more of the same. Quote For you "special" folks, "GOP" refers to the Republican Party. D'oh! Quote Maybe that's why you missed it? Desperate, even for you! Texas sheriff certifies the Martha's Vineyard migrants are crime victims: https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/10/13/texas-sheriff-certifies-the-marthas-vineyard-migrants-are-crime-victims-opening-the-door-for-special-visas The party of "law and order"... you couldn't make it up, laughable! Edited October 18, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 16 hours ago, Magilla said: It is true though 1922! Republican politician says Republican proposals are good... Really? When did that happen? Again, right wing pundit says Republican policies needed, but it turns out it's more of exactly the same as last time (that didn't work), and ignores the real issues as per my previous post. ...and more of the same. D'oh! Desperate, even for you! Texas sheriff certifies the Martha's Vineyard migrants are crime victims: https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/10/13/texas-sheriff-certifies-the-marthas-vineyard-migrants-are-crime-victims-opening-the-door-for-special-visas The party of "law and order"... you couldn't make it up, laughable! What's laughable is your assertion that there is no border crisis in the U.S. To whit: "the "crisis" part is wholly a political construct". Go with that! So nothing more to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, trastrick said: What's laughable is your assertion that there is no border crisis in the U.S. So, you can't substantiate your claim re: Pelosi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Magilla said: So, you can't substantiate your claim re: Pelosi? You mean that The Dignity Act which was introduced by Republican Congressional Representaive Maria Elvira Salazar, the didn't make it through Pelosi's majority Democrat Congress? She didn't actually stand behind the Republican Reperesentive ( a minority, by the way) and tear it up on prime time national television, ike she does with Presidential State of the Union Adresses she doesn't like! Edited October 20, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, trastrick said: You mean that The Dignity Act which was introduced by Republican Congressional Representaive Maria Elvira Salazar, the didn't make it through Pelosi's majority Democrat Congress? So, as expected you can't... ...who knew! 1 minute ago, trastrick said: She didn't actually stand behind the Republican Reperesentive ( a minority, by the way) and tear it up on prime time national television, ike she does with Presidential State of the Union Adresses she doesn't like! Of course, because it didn't happen, you made it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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