RollingJ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: And you tell me I need to learn history 🙄 America disposed the democratically elected leader and installed a western puppet. If you don't even know that then I can't help you. I'll just have to agree to disagree with you on this. But they didn't INVADE and kill civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, RollingJ said: But they didn't INVADE and kill civilians. Yes they did. Lots of them. You can't really have a proper coup without civilian deaths. Ignore that if you like. That's cool, but to say it didn't happen is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Yes they did. Lots of them. You can't really have a proper coup without civilian deaths. Ignore that if you like. That's cool, but to say it didn't happen is just plain wrong. They did not INVADE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, RollingJ said: They did not INVADE. Officially? No. Actually? They most certainly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, The_DADDY said: Officially? No. Actually? They most certainly did. Don't follow your logic - where were all the American/Western European troops, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidorry Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Can you explain to me how anyone can invade a country if they are already there. I was under the belief that to invade was to enter a country unlawfully and with intent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, RollingJ said: Don't follow your logic - where were all the American/Western European troops, then? Never heard of covert operations then? It staggers me you don't get it. This is absolutely no secret and had been known for almost a decade. Sure the information is harder to find now but not impossible. Do yourself a favour. Look it up. In fact here, I did it for you... No need to thank me https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Never heard of covert operations then? It staggers me you don't get it. This is absolutely no secret and had been known for almost a decade. Sure the information is harder to find now but not impossible. Do yourself a favour. Look it up. In fact here, I did it for you... No need to thank me https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict Yup, heard of 'covert operations' - they happen the world over, but I specifically asked 'where were the 'Western' troops'. That article is 8+ years old, and has nothing to do with Finland joining NATO, which I am trying to get you to understand is a decision by FINLAND, as they obviously fear (rightly or wrongly) the intentions of Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, RollingJ said: Yup, heard of 'covert operations' - they happen the world over, but I specifically asked 'where were the 'Western' troops'. That article is 8+ years old, and has nothing to do with Finland joining NATO, which I am trying to get you to understand is a decision by FINLAND, as they obviously fear (rightly or wrongly) the intentions of Russia. Just wow. It explains how this really began. Read it. Or don't. Your call. Keep believing the 'heroic' Ukraine is fighting for what's right.. Keep believing this is all russias fault. I'm really past caring. For anyone wanting to know the real reasons for the current situation then read the article. If you want to remain in the dark then don't read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Just wow. It explains how this really began. Read it. Or don't. Your call. Keep believing the 'heroic' Ukraine is fighting for what's right.. Keep believing this is all russias fault. I'm really past caring. I'm done too, because you don't want to (or can't) see why FINLAND requested to join NATO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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