hackey lad Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 USA got turned over properly in Vietnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, hackey lad said: USA got turned over properly in Vietnam No they didn't. America's loss was purely political. There wasn't the appetite to launch a full scale war on North Vietnam plus there was a lot of kickback against the war in the states. Did America lose? Technically yes. Was the American military defeated? No. And I'm not friend of America by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_DADDY said: No they didn't. America's loss was purely political. There wasn't the appetite to launch a full scale war on North Vietnam plus there was a lot of kickback against the war in the states. Did America lose? Technically yes. Was the American military defeated? No. And I'm not friend of America by the way. JFK, a good Democrat, took the world to the brink of Nuclear War with Russia, rather than letting another free, independent sovereign nation on it's own doorstep, Cuba, choose it's own military alliances. It was called "The Cuban Missile Crisis". Now another Democrat, Biden is telling the Russians, they can't do the same with Ukraine! The "moral" supremacists, Democrats dropped two Atom Bombs on Japan, vaporizing 200,000 innocent civilians with Weapons of Mass Destruction, and maiming who knows how many more. Imagine if free and sovereign counties like Mexico or Canada wanted to join Russia? Either Democrat Foreign Policy is concocted to confuse the enemy, or it is they who are confused. Either way, as long as the West has this arrogant and elitist "moral" imperative to dictate the affairs of foreign countries, we will alway be on the edge of what Joe Biden called ARMAGEDDON! Stay safe! Edited October 29, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim117 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, trastrick said: JFK, a good Democrat, took the world to the brink of Nuclear War with Russia, rather than letting another free, independent sovereign nation on it's doorstep, Cuba, choose it's own military alliances. It was called "The Cuban Missile Crisis". Now another Democrat is telling the Russians, they can't do the same with Ukraine! I actually agree with The DADDY here in his assessment. Such are the vagaries of discussion forums. As for JFK, he stood up and denied a miserable commie state a launch site on his own doorstep. Unlike your pathetic hero Trump who would have given Putin a free pass in Ukraine due to his admiration of dictators. The said admiration being due to his attraction to power without accountability as demonstrated by his contempt for democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jim117 said: I actually agree with The DADDY here in his assessment. Such are the vagaries of discussion forums. As for JFK, he stood up and denied a miserable commie state a launch site on his own doorstep. Unlike your pathetic hero Trump who would have given Putin a free pass in Ukraine due to his admiration of dictators. The said admiration being due to his attraction to power without accountability as demonstrated by his contempt for democracy. 12 hours ago, Jim117 said: Unlike your pathetic hero Trump who would have given Putin a free pass in Ukraine In your head! The REALITY is that Putin invaded Ukranian Crimea in 2014 under Obama/Biden. And again in 2022, under Biden/Harris. (Trump was President 2017 - 2021!) Stay safe! Edited October 30, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, trastrick said: The REALITY is that Putin invaded Ukranian Crimea in 2014 under Obama/Biden. And again in 2022, under Biden/Harris. (Trump was President 2017 - 2021!) Why Didn’t Putin Invade Under Trump?: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897 In 2018, Kremlin mouthpiece Dmitry Kiselyov suggested on national television that Russia could reduce the United States to a “pile of radioactive ash.” The same year, describing the poisoning of Sergei Skripal in the U.K. as “only the beginning,” Russian military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer warned that Russia was preparing for broad action against the West to create panic and paralyze Western countries, including a long-planned “special period” of political destabilization and violence in the West once war had begun and diplomats had been recalled. Far from deterring Putin, Trump did the opposite. Thanks to Trump, Putin was able to take advantage of a period of apparent detente during which Trump actually pursued Putin’s own policies of weakening NATO and democracy and destabilizing the West — leaving Putin free to prepare his war against the free people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government. The actual reality! Edited October 30, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Magilla said: Why Didn’t Putin Invade Under Trump?: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897 In 2018, Kremlin mouthpiece Dmitry Kiselyov suggested on national television that Russia could reduce the United States to a “pile of radioactive ash.” The same year, describing the poisoning of Sergei Skripal in the U.K. as “only the beginning,” Russian military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer warned that Russia was preparing for broad action against the West to create panic and paralyze Western countries, including a long-planned “special period” of political destabilization and violence in the West once war had begun and diplomats had been recalled. Far from deterring Putin, Trump did the opposite. Thanks to Trump, Putin was able to take advantage of a period of apparent detente during which Trump actually pursued Putin’s own policies of weakening NATO and democracy and destabilizing the West — leaving Putin free to prepare his war against the free people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government. The actual reality! Opinions are not "actual reality". Geeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, trastrick said: Opinions are not "actual reality". Compared to the simplistic nonsense you're peddling, I'll take the word of an expert in Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard any day. Putin wasn't just sat there doing nothing while Trump was praising him to the skies. Who knew... ...well, loads of people, and they were saying it was coming throughout Trumps presidency, while he was giving Putin a pass at every turn! 2 minutes ago, trastrick said: Geeez! Good to see your insightful dissection of the claims... ...oh that's right, as usual you've got nothing beyond the stuff only a child could fall for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Magilla said: Compared to the simplistic nonsense you're peddling, I'll take the word of an expert in Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard any day. Putin wasn't just sat there doing nothing while Trump was praising him to the skies. Who knew... ...well, loads of people, and they were saying it was coming throughout Trumps presidency, while he was giving Putin a pass at every turn! Good to see your insightful dissection of the claims... ...oh that's right, as usual you've got nothing beyond the stuff only a child could fall for. Lol I got nothing but the facts I posted above! Beats the opinions of the myriads of Trump Haters, from the Swamp, which are a dime a dozen! This one's also a Unabashed Biden lover. A doiuble whammy! The World is facing Armageddon under Biden, and while she's ranting on about Trump's complaints about the election process, while not one NOT ONE criticism, or negative word about the old confused fart Biden, who got us all here. Some "analysis!" LOL https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897 But hey ! we are all entitled to our opinions, if they don't get deplatformed, or otherwise censored! But in reality, we'll see who shares her glowing opinion of Biden and his Party, next Tuesday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, trastrick said: I got nothing but the facts I posted above! A fact, based on a complete lack of any insight in the region, politics, and total ignorance of anything that was going on, then and now! As before, you've got nothing... Quote Beats the opinions of the myriads of Trump Haters, from the Swamp, which are a dime a dozen! Yeah, sick of experts... we know! Notions of "the Swamp" from a Trump cheerleader, laughable... ...like claiming "respect for law and order", simply not credible. Quote But in reality, we'll see who shares her glowing opinion of Biden and his Party, next Tuesday! Well it certainly will be fun watching your gripes if Republicans get hold of the purse strings for the next two years... ...given your simplistic notions, it's their inflation then! Edited October 30, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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