harvey19 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, El Cid said: The majority is generally in the middle ground. Tony Blair won by being in the middle ground. That only works in a two party system, because there are other party's on the left that people could vote for. Would you vote in line with your socialist beliefs for the Green party or would you vote Labour to stop the Tories? I vote for the party which represents what I think is best and not to stop another party winning. In reality I think there are only the 2 major parties that can win a general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPP Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Because I would like a committed Labour supporter to tell me why Labour are not representing the views of , what I believe to be, the majority. I am not committed to any party but at the moment don't think there is much difference between the 2 main parties. You don't think there's much difference between the two parties?? Are you seriously suggesting a Labour government would ever deliver a budget even remotely similar to what the Tories did yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, harvey19 said: I vote for the party which represents what I think is best and not to stop another party winning. In reality I think there are only the 2 major parties that can win a general election. There’s now wonder we’re in a tangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Mister Gee said: It should be in the music thread but here it is especially for you! Thanks but no thanks . Not listening to that crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, harvey19 said: I vote for the party which represents what I think is best and not to stop another party winning. In reality I think there are only the 2 major parties that can win a general election. So you will be voting Labour, that's the right vote at the moment. PR has been mentioned in the past few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, El Cid said: So you will be voting Labour, that's the right vote at the moment. PR has been mentioned in the past few days. Its always mentioned by losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, BigPP said: You don't think there's much difference between the two parties?? Are you seriously suggesting a Labour government would ever deliver a budget even remotely similar to what the Tories did yesterday? Corbyn split the Labour party down the middle and alienated so many that life long Labour voters voted for The Tories That is a monumental f**k up that will take decades to repair Its why Starmer had to get rid of him Unfortunately they still have Corbyn 2.0 with Angela Rayner trying to take over the party Starmer takes one step forward and the Corbynistas take two steps back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, El Cid said: So you will be voting Labour, that's the right vote at the moment. PR has been mentioned in the past few days. Why is it the right vote at the moment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Corbyn split the Labour party down the middle and alienated so many that life long Labour voters voted for The Tories That is a monumental f**k up that will take decades to repair Its why Starmer had to get rid of him Unfortunately they still have Corbyn 2.0 with Angela Rayner trying to take over the party Starmer takes one step forward and the Corbynistas take two steps back The absolute state of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 23/09/2022 at 12:38, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Well clearly the top people are being attracted abroad where their talents are still being rewarded. Why shouldn't the best people be rewarded for their efforts? Don't forget that bonuses are just that... ... even though they're being paid maybe hundreds of thousands in bonuses in some cases, they only get bonuses based on the amount of money they earn for the company/country! So unlike in the public sector, where people get paid an amount no matter how incompetent they are, the private sector needs to be able to compete and pay the market value to keep the right people! Hmmm, yeah, if I recall that ethos led to the right people making a it possible to recycle risky debt into AAA-rated bonds to hide their many many mistakes... ...and get the bonus even when they'd lost so much their company, in reality, was actually insolvent before they'd even handed it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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