Dromedary Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Leo Tomlinson said: It is ours , It's not and never has been as technically it is all owned by our new King, or to be correct the Crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Tomlinson Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Dromedary said: It's not and never has been as technically it is all owned by our new King, or to be correct the Crown. Thats our fault . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 13 hours ago, Leo Tomlinson said: It is ours , But as usual the Government allow their backers to take over the goodies , rail , oil , gas .transport ,road building and so on . The profits end up in some off shore dodgy banks , The gangsters who have robbed the poor people of our Country are then knighted by our Royal family , Itsa cosy little carry on just like the Russian Oligarchs who we house in London . We are a tax haven. That's what we do. The sooner people realise what a soft touch we are for the Oligarchs and gangsters the better. They're here for their benefit, not ours. It's all wrong but what can you do? The people keep voting in the Conservatives, and while ever these friends of the super rich are in charge that's what you get. (And sadly, Starmer will be no better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromedary Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Leo Tomlinson said: Thats our fault . So you agree that it is not actually ours now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Tomlinson Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Anna B said: We are a tax haven. That's what we do. The sooner people realise what a soft touch we are for the Oligarchs and gangsters the better. They're here for their benefit, not ours. It's all wrong but what can you do? The people keep voting in the Conservatives, and while ever these friends of the super rich are in charge that's what you get. (And sadly, Starmer will be no better) Agree about Starmer he is a Tory in disguise the same as many of the luvvies now running the Labour party , most of em think Manual Labour is a Spanish waiter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Nothing has an actual real value, resources have the value of whatever the markets decide the value is. This isn't surprising, given that money is not real, which we discovered in 2008. We could have a system whereby we organised for power sources to generate us power, then moved that power to where we needed it, then used it, all without the need for money or markets or any of that. But then it wouldn't be possible for a tiny number of people to have all the wealth and other sort of power, so apparently that's a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delbow said: Nothing has an actual real value, resources have the value of whatever the markets decide the value is. This isn't surprising, given that money is not real, which we discovered in 2008. We could have a system whereby we organised for power sources to generate us power, then moved that power to where we needed it, then used it, all without the need for money or markets or any of that. But then it wouldn't be possible for a tiny number of people to have all the wealth and other sort of power, so apparently that's a terrible idea. Explain your brilliant idea, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, RollingJ said: Explain your brilliant idea, please? Well, what you do is, you construct a method of generating power (a wind turbine, for example), and then you make a big cable to connect it to, and then you put that cable where people need power, then you stick a transformer on it to get the voltage down, and then people use it. So exactly as we do now, except without someone giving any of this a made up value and getting rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Delbow said: Well, what you do is, you construct a method of generating power (a wind turbine, for example), and then you make a big cable to connect it to, and then you put that cable where people need power, then you stick a transformer on it to get the voltage down, and then people use it. So exactly as we do now, except without someone giving any of this a made up value and getting rich. And who pays for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delbow said: Well, what you do is, you construct a method of generating power (a wind turbine, for example), and then you make a big cable to connect it to, and then you put that cable where people need power, then you stick a transformer on it to get the voltage down, and then people use it. So exactly as we do now, except without someone giving any of this a made up value and getting rich. Similar system to when we had coal pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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