Zinger549 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, top4718 said: 🤔 https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin Yes but those people chose to have it. Some people seem to think we'll have no choice in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Zinger549 said: Yes but those people chose to have it. Some people seem to think we'll have no choice in the matter. Of course, they'll sell them as being advantageous to you, once your dependent on them when there's no cash they have control, almost every aspect of this you've dismissed is already happening somewhere. It's also rumoured that the father in law of PM Sunak is the founder of Infosys who are a world leader in digital currency/ID. Ignore these small inroads at your peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, top4718 said: Of course, they'll sell them as being advantageous to you, once your dependent on them when there's no cash they have control, almost every aspect of this you've dismissed is already happening somewhere. It's also rumoured that the father in law of PM Sunak is the founder of Infosys who are a world leader in digital currency/ID. Ignore these small inroads at your peril. We depend on paper money, debit cards, credit cards. We have done for years. How is that any different to a chip, or a phone payment. You have an over active imagination Edited October 25, 2022 by sibon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, top4718 said: Are you saying you think they tell you the truth? 🤣 There's no hope for some. The MSM are all saying Rishi Sunak is the new PM. What do you make of that? Edited October 25, 2022 by Longcol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Longcol said: The MSM are all saying Rishi Sunak is the new PM. What do you make of that? I make of it that you have no idea how the MSM actually works and influences your thinking, no surprise then that your taken in by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinger549 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 hours ago, sibon said: We depend on paper money, debit cards, credit cards. We have done for years. How is that any different to a chip, or a phone payment. You have an over active imagination Well Right said Fred and Gillian Mckeith say it so it must be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) On 25/10/2022 at 12:45, Anna B said: I'd like to see people boycotting places that don't accept cash. I accept that cashless can be more efficient and easier, but people should not be forced down that route if they don't want it. They should have a choice. Next they will be doing away with cash 'because hardly anybody uses it anymore' ignoring the fact that they've frequently had no choice. Cash is one of our last freedoms before Big Brother takes over. Why should they? You do know what a banknote is don't you? It is a piece of paper. That's it. It's only asset is because of the promissory note provided by the bank issuing it against whatever commodity they choose to value it against for a cumulative price that they choose to set. There is no 'freedom' in cash. There is no 'individual choice' in cash anymore the writing of a piece of paper known as a cheque or transferring computerised numerical information between plastic cards or online transactions. As I have said on another thread, I really do not understand this stupid hysteria and paranoia. Are people so naive to think that even using cash gives them some ultimate anonymity privacy and freedom. They have no idea how even with cash the authorities can trace someone if they need to. In fact, some would argue that online currencies are even harder to to trace than some hermit living in the middle of nowhere holding onto their precious cash. Yes at a technical level, online tracking is far quicker and easier, but don't for one second think that if they are determined to find out about someone they cant do it. Cash or not, with exception of a tiny tiny minority nobody is stuffing piles of their money under the bed. Everyone relies on banks to store their money. Everyone shops in stores to spend their money. That gets monitored. That gets noticed. That gets recorded. Life evolves and businesses should be under no obligation to maintain outdated procedures just appease a handful of luddites and paranoid weirdos who won't embrace change through some unfounded hysterical fear. Cheques have existed since the 1700s, modern day debit cards were established in the late 70s. Even the oldest most decrepit person on the planet has had at least half of their life to learn the basics of cashless payment. No excuse. Edited October 26, 2022 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) cash is harder to steal. fraud has gone through the roof since internet banking came into place - it's not just a few quid anymore, it's life changing amounts calling people raising valid concerns paranoid shows how little you know. Edited October 26, 2022 by fools 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Hmmm... This idea of going cashless is obviously very worrying for a lot of local folk! How will any proper self-employed Sheffielder be expected to make ends meet if he can no longer fiddle his income tax returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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