General Election Now

[PRESLEY]

2 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Let just not try to move the goalposts and have the general election as schedule  in 2024 or January 2025.  The only time an early general election is justified is when the ruling party of the day don't have a working majority.  The Labour party who now want a general election didn't want an early general election in 2019 when the Tory party didn't have an majority and couldn't get any legislation through parliament such as implementing Brexit.

 

 

Are you Screaming Lord Such by any chance,   A GE is justified NOW! before this load of rubbish cause anymore carnage.

[top4718]

I agree we need a general election but what we also need are some parties to vote for, the Tory/Labour two horse race is a busted flush as both are absolutely dreadful.

[Delbow]

5 minutes ago, top4718 said:

I agree we need a general election but what we also need are some parties to vote for, the Tory/Labour two horse race is a busted flush as both are absolutely dreadful.

I think the solution is pretty simple. The opposition parties stand on a PR platform, get the Tories out, use the new parliament to implement PR, then hold another GE under that process. The problem is that Starmer doesn't want PR because he likes the idea of governing alone. Andy Burnham is keen though.

[cressida]

9 minutes ago, top4718 said:

I agree we need a general election but what we also need are some parties to vote for, the Tory/Labour two horse race is a busted flush as both are absolutely dreadful.

I think we'll be stuck with Ms Truss for a while longer,  it's a poisoned chalice at the moment - will there be new manifestos,  does anyone know what Labour's plans are,

the pandemic has ruined the economy so there's a ready excuse for getouts.

[harvey19]

Beware of what you wish for.

What are the other parties offering ?

Is there stability in the other parties ?

 

 

[Mister M]

51 minutes ago, West 77 said:

They had a referendum in 2011 regarding changing the voting system and 68% of the electorate voted NO.  It was the Lib Dems who were in a coalition government who pushed for that referendum.  This is another case where the losers of a referendum vote don't accept the outcome.

 

 

 

It's a good time for political parties to be in opposition throughout the Western World at the moment due to the global problems which are effecting the economies.  The Russian invasion of Ukraine as well as the pandemic are to blame for the World's economic woes.  The country wouldn't be in any better position if there was a Labour government.

Funny thing is, When Kwasi and Truss implemented their budget, a few weeks ago, the markets went haywire. Interest rates went up, mortgage rates went up, the bottom fell out of the pensions market.

Converseley, when the new chancellor Jeremy Hunt  implemented what Labour called for, a reversal of the Kwarteng / Truss policies, the markets stabilised afterwards.

Funny that.

But as you say, that must've happened the world over.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Mister M

[cuttsie]

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

I agree we need a general election but what we also need are some parties to vote for, the Tory/Labour two horse race is a busted flush as both are absolutely dreadful.

Bang on , Both parties now appeal to middle classes , We need a proper Labour party where candidates are picked from the local community and know what it means to be working class , not the luvvies bused in  to represent us  , Jobs fpr the boys just the same as Conservative party is .

[Anna B]

3 minutes ago, cuttsie said:

Bang on , Both parties now appeal to middle classes , We need a proper Labour party where candidates are picked from the local community and know what it means to be working class , not the luvvies bused in  to represent us  , Jobs fpr the boys just the same as Conservative party is .

I agree up to a point, but starting another party splits the Labour vote further. 

The plethora of smaller parties is why the Conservatives keep getting in.

 

Personally I'd love to see a proper Labour party, which is why I think Starmer made a huge mistake expelling the socialists from the party. He should have worked with them.

Edited October 20, 2022 by Anna B

[harvey19]

How about a coalition of Conservative and Labour parties with Tony Blair in charge ?

[RollingJ]

5 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

How about a coalition of Conservative and Labour parties with Tony Blair in charge ?

As posted elsewhere - please no!