Tipstaff Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 There are some who believe that certain professions should not have the right to 'strike' , as to do so would be leaving vulnerable members of society (the sick in this case), in danger of not reaching medical aid in time to preserve life. The police cannot strike and neither can the armed services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I'm no problem with the nurses getting a pay rise. Although I'd rather see more nurses than the existing shortage but with more money in their pockets. What I do have a problem with is the media spinning the situation claiming that nurses are stealing patients food because they can't afford a £4 sandwich from the canteen. Have people not heard of bringing in packing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 So much needs sorting out, it's not all about pay, but general dissatisfaction. I'd start at the bottom with the Social care staff who do a difficult job for not much money. They're very much second class citizens in the pay hierarchy, but do most of the hard graft. They need to be brought back into the NHS on the same footing as nurses. They may not have a degree etc, but they are essential to the care of patients and just as skilled in their own field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 14 hours ago, Tipstaff said: There are some who believe that certain professions should not have the right to 'strike' , as to do so would be leaving vulnerable members of society (the sick in this case), in danger of not reaching medical aid in time to preserve life. The police cannot strike and neither can the armed services. There are a LOT who believe the complete opposite too. The nurses and carers are the ones who do most to look after these vulnerable members of society who you care about so much. The nurses are nothing like the coppers or the army and it isn't just about the nurses anyway. The care assistants and other staff are also doing a fantastic job for a disgusting wage and have been taken advantage of for years. EVERYBODY should have the right to withdraw their labour if negotiation fails and if the country suffers, then that is the fault of the government who are trying to save a few bob when they have squandered billions. They manage to look after all their rich friends without any trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: There are a LOT who believe the complete opposite too. The nurses and carers are the ones who do most to look after these vulnerable members of society who you care about so much. The nurses are nothing like the coppers or the army and it isn't just about the nurses anyway. The care assistants and other staff are also doing a fantastic job for a disgusting wage and have been taken advantage of for years. EVERYBODY should have the right to withdraw their labour if negotiation fails and if the country suffers, then that is the fault of the government who are trying to save a few bob when they have squandered billions. They manage to look after all their rich friends without any trouble. Any idea how much nurses are paid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Anna B said: So much needs sorting out, it's not all about pay, but general dissatisfaction. I agree, ambulance staff have now voted to strike. Can you imagine how it feels to have a patient on your ambulance, you have saved their life. That would be very uplifting. Then you arrive at hospital and you are kept waiting for over an hour and your patient gets worse again or dies. 4 hours ago, alchresearch said: What I do have a problem with is the media spinning the situation claiming that nurses are stealing patients food because they can't afford a £4 sandwich from the canteen. It's just media hype, the patient probably didn't want the food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, El Cid said: Can you imagine how it feels .... waiting for over an hour and your patient gets worse again or dies. so why don't they sort it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, harvey19 said: Any idea how much nurses are paid ? I believe a qualified nurse starts on about £27,000. I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anna B said: I believe a qualified nurse starts on about £27,000. I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm wrong. I was being a bit provocative by asking this as I regularly hear people saying strikers should get more pay without knowing what their current salaries are. Throwing more money at a system which is not performing in the way we want it to is not the only way to tackle the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prettytom Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 hours ago, harvey19 said: I was being a bit provocative by asking this as I regularly hear people saying strikers should get more pay without knowing what their current salaries are. Throwing more money at a system which is not performing in the way we want it to is not the only way to tackle the problem. Maybe not. But throwing more money at individuals who do valuable work, is the correct thing to do in the current economic circumstances. You might want to check the dictionary definition of “provocative “, by the way. You appear to have mixed it up with “clueless”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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