Working Class People Paid Thousands Less Than Middle Class Peers Despite Doing S

[Mister N]

19 hours ago, Mister M said:

Now this is very interesting

 

Revealed: working class people paid thousands less than middle class peers despite doing same jobs | Class issues | The Guardian

 

Though I suspect it will trigger the right wingers into chucking their toys out the pram.

And if anyone wants me to "define working class and middle class", well look it up yourselves.

It's disgusting working class people aren't rewarded for the work they do.

[ECCOnoob]

55 minutes ago, Mister N said:

It's disgusting working class people aren't rewarded for the work they do.

Says who?  That is a whole point of this discussion. It is not so simplistic as the headline makes out -  but clearly it's done it's job by getting the emotive reaction from people like you.

 

People are getting paid the wage that THEY contractually agreed to receive for their services.They are not doing it out the goodness of their hearts. 

 

If people believe they deserve more, than they need to demonstrate that and argue it with their employer for a raise. They are free to terminate service with one employer and go off and find something better and more highly paid elsewhere with a different employer. 

 

The market will soon dictate what capacity and scope someone's value is, as it has been for decades before.

[ECCOnoob]

2 hours ago, Dromedary said:

It certainly is and this, the long version, is a better read:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/07/the-class-pay-gap-why-it-pays-to-be-privileged

 

Quote:

 

"These numbers are certainly concerning. But it is important not to jump to the conclusion that that they are entirely driven by class prejudice and discrimination. In fact, many readers have probably already started formulating their own explanations for the class pay gap; maybe working-class people are simply younger on average than those from privileged backgrounds, and therefore less far along in their careers? Or perhaps the privileged have higher rates of educational attainment? Maybe they just work harder, or perform better at work?

These are plausible mechanisms that deserve careful scrutiny. And some are indeed part of the story. Education does explain some of the gap. Those from privileged backgrounds tend to have higher qualifications and attend more prestigious universities, both of which are associated with higher earnings."

 

Again its hype vs fact

Thanks. That's very interesting. So even the Guardian who presented in February a balanced comment about clear other factors at play has sat back and allowed it's sister paper to push the the shortened, more hyped inconclusive narrative nine months later.

 

...and people bang on about how it's just the Murdoch papers who sensationalise and distort.   

 

I wonder which version of the the story the point scoring opposition MPs and talking heads will use when they try and do a bit of finger pointing.

Edited November 13, 2022 by ECCOnoob

[Mister Gee]

9 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Says who?  That is a whole point of this discussion. It is not so simplistic as the headline makes out -  but clearly it's done it's job by getting the emotive reaction from people like you.

 

People are getting paid the wage that THEY contractually agreed to receive for their services.They are not doing it out the goodness of their hearts. 

 

If people believe they deserve more, than they need to demonstrate that and argue it with their employer for a raise. They are free to terminate service with one employer and go off and find something better and more highly paid elsewhere with a different employer. 

 

The market will soon dictate what capacity and scope someone's value is, as it has been for decades before.

The market certainly got it right when it came down to Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng. Crispin Odey was quids in.

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/10/03/exposing-the-conservative-hedge-fund-scandal-better-late-than-never-or-too-little-too-late/

Edited November 14, 2022 by Mister Gee
link added

[Janet24]

And does that have anything to do with the subject of this thread?

[Dromedary]

43 minutes ago, Janet24 said:

And does that have anything to do with the subject of this thread?

Oooo, now you've done it. Expect a photo of his dad real soon!

[Mister Gee]

7 hours ago, Dromedary said:

Oooo, now you've done it. Expect a photo of his dad real soon!

I’ve added a link but not the one you expected.

 

PS, you don’t need to subscribe to see it either.

[Waldo]

When reality doesn’t match up with how you feel it should be…

[Cody's Granddad]

13 hours ago, Mister N said:

It's disgusting working class people aren't rewarded for the work they do.

I'd put a comma after disgusting if I were you 😁