fools Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anna B said: That a couple in full time work That a couple both working in full time employment cannot afford a roof over their heads and food on the table, let alone heating is a national disgrace. To tell that couple about to be made homeless with no option but to live on the street, to 'raise your productivity' is an insult. have you been reading union pamphlets again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, rogets said: As someone in my 60s and as someone who fought in both world wars, I have never seen the UK in such a mess You can count on that, but then again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, fools said: rise your productivity, then talk about pay rises The government want more trains on a weekend and at unsociable days. The train staff don't what more hours, pay them more to work weekends and not a below inflation pay rise, they might think about it. That is how employers encourage people to work more, time and a half, double time etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Anna B said: That a couple in full time work That a couple both working in full time employment cannot afford a roof over their heads and food on the table, let alone heating is a national disgrace. To tell that couple about to be made homeless with no option but to live on the street, to 'raise your productivity' is an insult. The price of housing is a national disgrace. The ease in which mortgages were given in recent years helped to increase the prices. 2 minutes ago, El Cid said: The government want more trains on a weekend and at unsociable days. The train staff don't what more hours, pay them more to work weekends and not a below inflation pay rise, they might think about it. That is how employers encourage people to work more, time and a half, double time etc Don’t they already get shift allowance and unsocial working hours payments ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromedary Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Mister M said: Really? I had a funtime in the 1970s, on my Raleigh Grifter listening to pop music. But were you working and being taxed high to pay for the high inflation? Sounds like you were a kiddie back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, Anna B said: That a couple in full time work That a couple both working in full time employment cannot afford a roof over their heads and food on the table, let alone heating is a national disgrace. To tell that couple about to be made homeless with no option but to live on the street, to 'raise your productivity' is an insult. Any proof of this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Any proof of this statement? There's never any proof in any of Anna's rants and anecdotes. But the unions are our friends, she says, they're only in it for us........... Unite official under investigation by police An employee from the Unite union is being investigated by police as part of an inquiry into allegations of bribery, fraud and money laundering. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61029515 Red Len soon scarpered after this: Unite announces inquiry into £98m hotel complex built under Len McCluskey https://news.sky.com/story/unite-announces-inquiry-into-98m-hotel-complex-built-under-len-mccluskey-12501105 Arthur Scargill loses battle to have union meet costs of London flat https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/dec/21/arthur-scargill-battle-union-flat Top Unite official fined in miners’ payout scandal https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/top-unite-official-fined-in-miners-payout-scandal-z55v7djx9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, harvey19 said: The price of housing is a national disgrace. The ease in which mortgages were given in recent years helped to increase the prices. Don’t they already get shift allowance and unsocial working hours payments ? They are short staffed, so they do as many hours as they want. Why would they agree to doing more? I don't work weekends, how about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, El Cid said: The government want more trains on a weekend and at unsociable days. The train staff don't what more hours, pay them more to work weekends and not a below inflation pay rise, they might think about it. That is how employers encourage people to work more, time and a half, double time etc of all the industries to defend, this is not the one to die on a hill for. 7.2 million waiting for NHS postal system is shambolic as are many of the public sector bodies on strike Edited December 14, 2022 by fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, El Cid said: They are short staffed, so they do as many hours as they want. Why would they agree to doing more? I don't work weekends, how about you? Sure they get overtime rates . many people used to be glad to get overtime to make more money. I am retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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