Strike Action

[hackey lad]

13 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

It’s generally a giveaway for someone who’s already on here under another username.

?????

[Anna B]

31 minutes ago, Dromedary said:

Same is also happening abroad too as Europe are also experiencing shortages of medical staff.

 

No they are trouble makers and have an agenda and that is to get a Labour government in place who will do as they bid, just like the old days!

 

So they should as they have a independent pay review body that deals with pay issues.

 

No, it's a job just like any other.

They are doing their job, which is to support the workers in their Union, that's all.

If it wasn't for Unions and people like Mick Lynch workers would have no rights at all, and even worse conditions.

[Axe]

53 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Disagree. Yes we will always need nurses. The problem is we can't get them. There are thousands of vacancies but no nurses to fill them or wanting to fill them because of the workload, not very good pay and working conditions. Far from being 'trouble makers' Pat Cullen and Mick Lynch are trying to address those concerns, but the government is refusing to listen or even talk to them. 

 

Nursing in particular relies on goodwill. The government's handling of the situation since Covid has destroyed that goodwill.  

A 19% pay increase for nurses is not possible. The Labour party leader has stated that.  Pat Cullen and Mick Lynch are not helping the situation.

 

33 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

Axe who joined SF two years ago and made his first post last month.

Axe joined SF two years ago and made his first post two years ago. What is your problem?

Edited December 19, 2022 by Axe

[Mister M]

2 hours ago, Axe said:

The nurses going to food banks should be sacked because they most certainly are not very bright otherwise they would be managing their finances much better.

And you're not very bright for making a stupid comment like that.

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, Dromedary said:

Same is also happening abroad too as Europe are also experiencing shortages of medical staff.

Can we have some facts please, real data. Every large organisation has vacancies 24/7

[Dromedary]

51 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Can we have some facts please, real data. Every large organisation has vacancies 24/7

And the reason they have vacancies is because of.... staff shortages....

 

Not posting it again so go back to post #333 which I though you may have already read as you had also posted only two posts later....

 

Take a closer look also at the links in the article as well as that gives lots of data.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Dromedary
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[El Cid]

51 minutes ago, Dromedary said:

And the reason they have vacancies is because of.... staff shortages....

 

Not posting it again so go back to post #333 which I though you may have already read as you had also posted only two posts later....

 

Take a closer look also at the links in the article as well as that gives lots of data.

I looked at 333, it does not compare different countries. It's pointless telling us how many vaccancies there are, without saying how many health care workers are employed in each country.

I did Google, but clear comparisons are not easy to find, certainly not up to date ones.

The ones I did see, the UK health care performance is poor 

[El Cid]

Here is how our health care compared, in 2020

We are the sixth richest country, so we should be sixth on all league tables?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

[Anna B]

3 hours ago, Axe said:

A 19% pay increase for nurses is not possible. The Labour party leader has stated that.  Pat Cullen and Mick Lynch are not helping the situation.

 

Axe joined SF two years ago and made his first post two years ago. What is your problem?

Nobody thinks they're going to get 19%. It's just their starting position. They start high, the other side starts low and they meet somewhere in the middle. That's how it's done. And  everyone knows that's how it's done.

 

The government aren't helping by refusing to talk to them. That's so arrogant. I'm sure the nurses (representatives) have a great deal to say about the state of the health service and how it can be improved, which needs to be heard. By refusing to listen the government is not showing them the respect they deserve and antagonising the situation, as well as delaying the end of the strike.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Anna B

[fools]

16 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Nobody thinks they're going to get 19%. It's just their starting position. They start high, the other side starts low and they meet somewhere in the middle. That's how it's done. And  everyone knows that's how it's done.

 

The government aren't helping by refusing to talk to them. That's so arrogant. I'm sure the nurses (representatives) have a great deal to say about the state of the health service and how it can be improved, which needs to be heard. By refusing to listen the government is not showing them the respect they deserve and antagonising the situation, as well as delaying the end of the strike.

no, they are asking for a stupid increase, If they want to lower it in public to seem more reasonable, they can. any other unions asking for 19%?

 

they haven't refused to see them, they are just not negotiating money, because there is an independent process for that, they've had an offer. You wanna play hard ball, expect pushback.

Edited December 20, 2022 by fools