Strike Action

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, sibon said:

That’s all well and good, but your objection has a minor flaw. It takes five or six years to

train a doctor. And it will take several

cohorts of trainees to get staffing levels to where they need to be.

 

In my opinion, energy, health and education policy should be set for the long term, on a cross party basis. Not a chance of our entrenched politicians even considering doing that.

Fully agree.  It's too important to be done on a single party basis knowing the other party will undo it all again.

[rogets]

Years ago as apprentices we asked for a bonus from our boss as we had all worked hard

 

So we got called into the office, told to line up. 

 

We all received a clip round the ear as our Christmas bonus and all got sacked immediately 

[Prettytom]

1 hour ago, harvey19 said:

That is why I have said the reforms need to be completed in a realistic time scale .

The minister(S) responsible need to be made accountable for fulfilling manifesto PROMISES which have to be achievable.

But you aren’t in charge of how politics works.

 

Which is a good thing, because if all we ever do is to respond to short term targets, we will never do anything substantial.

 

For example, if you want a new nuclear power station, that has a lead time of about ten years. It takes a decade to train a doctor to a competent level. Building a new railway line can easily take 25 years.

 

So, staying that we should be sticking  to things that take less than five years is rather simplistic.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Prettytom

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Slinny said:

You have got that bang on  , Labour will try and sort the NHS mess if they get back in power . The trouble is people are so gullible , they read conservative news papers , and listen to very well paid BBC people ,  and back we will go again. When will ordinarily working. Class and middle class realise this government are not going to give them much help ., just spouting on about throwing money at every thing , and blaming covid  and the Ukrainian war , 

 

 

That is so true. Some people think they are too clever to be influenced by the media but in fact that's all it's there for these days, it long ago stopped telling the truth. Like advertising, it works subliminally. The Tories are masters at using the media, after all they control most of it.  

 

Anybody who still thinks 'fake news' only exists on the internet is sadly mistaken.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Anna B

[Al Bundy]

1 hour ago, sibon said:

We could get the folks in the workhouses to build some😁
 

We are having workhouses again, aren’t we? Please say yes.

Apparently so in Leicester...

 

https://news.sky.com/story/leicester-up-to-10-000-could-be-victims-of-modern-slavery-in-textile-factories-12027289

[trastrick]

14 minutes ago, Prettytom said:

But you aren’t in charge of how politics works.

 

Which is a good thing, because if all we ever do is to respond to short term targets, we will never do anything substantial.

 

For example, if you want a new nuclear power station, that has a lead time of about ten years. It takes a decade to train a doctor to a competent level. Building a new railway line can easily take 25 years.

 

So, staying that we should be sticking  to things that take less than five years is rather simplistic.

"Journey of 1,000 miles begins with single step!"

 

Arguing about it takes a little longer! 

 

 

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, makapaka said:

The tories and media would blame the nurses for the subsequent deaths.  Support would be lost.

Exactly, but you know that so you are immune.

The rest of the population need to realise how they are being manipulated.

It beats me how they can still not know.

[Slinny]

3 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Exactly, but you know that so you are immune.

The rest of the population need to realise how they are being manipulated.

It beats me how they can still not know.

We need national strike  , that would force a general election , we just cannot go on like this  their moto  A great deal for us ,and not a deal for them , The sooner some off that 80% majority  wake up to this the better , 

[El Cid]

3 minutes ago, Slinny said:

We need national strike  , that would force a general election , we just cannot go on like this  their moto  A great deal for us ,and not a deal for them , The sooner some off that 80% majority  wake up to this the better , 

The problem with the public sector is that there isn't free collective bargaining.

We don't want a national strike, the country is broke, but we want the NHS to work efficiently. Pay the NHS employees more, but everyone else will just have to take whats on offer. Get a better paid job, if there is one.

[harvey19]

59 minutes ago, Prettytom said:

But you aren’t in charge of how politics works.

 

Which is a good thing, because if all we ever do is to respond to short term targets, we will never do anything substantial.

 

For example, if you want a new nuclear power station, that has a lead time of about ten years. It takes a decade to train a doctor to a competent level. Building a new railway line can easily take 25 years.

 

So, staying that we should be sticking  to things that take less than five years is rather simplistic.

I think that if a manifesto promise is implemented in the early days of a parliament the following elected party would continue with it to completion.

Really it is all about making and  honouring promises which are what the electorate wants.