Slinny Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dromedary said: No, he only supported them so he could get a discount on buying a council house! Go back to uni Dom learn not to be a snidy g,, you are getting so boring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Doctors are in short supply and should receive an inflation matching pay rise or above. They are being offered 2% which is an effective 10% cut. Lorry drivers got big increases and bonuses because they were in short supply. Conservatives generally believe in the principle of supply and demand. If oil and gas is in short supply, the price goes up. The same principle applies to labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, El Cid said: Doctors are in short supply and should receive an inflation matching pay rise or above. They are being offered 2% which is an effective 10% cut. Lorry drivers got big increases and bonuses because they were in short supply. Conservatives generally believe in the principle of supply and demand. If oil and gas is in short supply, the price goes up. The same principle applies to labour. An argument is that they private sector may get bigger pay rises but not the other benefits public service workers get such as job security, good pension contributions by the employer, longer holidays and better sickness pay and leave. I recall the days when the civil service were relatively low paid but this was compensated for by job security and a pension. It has been muted that the strikers could get the pay rises they want but the employers pension contributions could be reduced to pay for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Slinny said: You are what you think you are , I loved hard manual work , I loved riding hard on a cycle , if a Forman put pressure on me I would respond , I loved mixing with people like myself , Some wanted more out off life , good luck to them , Some could not wait to get away from where they were brought up ,and felt ashamed to tell people where they came from , , where I was brought up , people were buying two bed semi detached , and lived like church mice, when I was 7 years old they built the council estate two hundred yards down our road , some off the parents up my part off the road said don’t mix with those off the council estate , Well I could not wait to go down there I am a old man who always loved mixing with my own kind off people Working Class as I define it ,so vote as I think fit , So pick bones out off that , as I know you will , Men Don’t go on strike as a game, they go for a fair days pay to live on , Well, when I worked for the post office as a postman, those voting to go on strike were mainly doing it to have a few days off or to go fishing. That's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Rail minister admits it would have been cheaper to settle the dispute Appears to say that prolonging the strike is about holding down pay and getting the reforms the employers want, which the RMT say would make them like gig economy workers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 11/01/2023 at 21:50, hackey lad said: Well , now we know Harry has found something he is good at , writing books 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Al Bundy said: Well, when I worked for the post office as a postman, those voting to go on strike were mainly doing it to have a few days off or to go fishing. That's a fact. Perhaps they needed a contract with more days off then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Al Bundy said: Well, when I worked for the post office as a postman, those voting to go on strike were mainly doing it to have a few days off or to go fishing. That's a fact. Still its better than walking the streets 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, harvey19 said: An argument is that they private sector may get bigger pay rises but not the other benefits public service workers get such as job security, good pension contributions by the employer, longer holidays and better sickness pay and leave. I recall the days when the civil service were relatively low paid but this was compensated for by job security and a pension. It has been muted that the strikers could get the pay rises they want but the employers pension contributions could be reduced to pay for them. Just been watching BBC two, emergency doctors, they should put a zero on their salaries, as far as I am concerned. They are not paid enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 6 hours ago, harvey19 said: Some Labour supporters would vote for the party whoever were the MPs, councillors etc. even though they have nothing in common with them. Same with many Tory voters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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