AndrewC Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, spilldig said: Hold up, Since when did drivers become rats and the runs are roads which made for the same transport as other roads. 'small-scale residential roads which were never designed to handle the levels of traffic we see now, and which used to be living, breathing extensions of people's homes/front yards before drivers decided they were to be used as extra capacity for main roads regardless of whether the local residents wanted that or not' Is that better? Or shall we just grow thicker skin and keep calling them rat runs, and the act as rat-running? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, mike1961 said: As a small business owner who carries out daily collection and deliveries in the city centre using two lgv vans i find this planned charge to be totally wrong at a time when... 1 hour ago, ab6262 said: all this will do in sheffield is push white van man and independent hauliers etc onto narrow roads blocking access for ambulance fire police etc especially at peak road times. this also includes the whole of the ring road so you cant even circumvent the city centre?? ludicrous. You've had 6 years to prepare. Significant amounts of public money is available to help you. Edited January 13, 2023 by ads36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, Planner1 said: Did you know that grants are available to help businesses to upgrade their vehicles? Have a look at this page for the support available. Do you not care about the air we all breathe? This is about getting nitrogen dioxide levels in the city centre below legal levels. Buses, trucks, vans and taxis are the major contributors to the poor air quality levels. The concept is “polluter pays”. But as proven to you in this thread by another poster, most areas of the city are below the requirements for CAZ & the worst area is the train station where the pollution is coming from the trains, which won't pay the CAZ charge. Stop drinking the Kool-aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Resident said: But as proven to you in this thread by another poster, most areas of the city are below the requirements for CAZ & the worst area is the train station where the pollution is coming from the trains, which won't pay the CAZ charge. Stop drinking the Kool-aid. The station isn’t in the CAZ. Stop posting irrelevant twaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Planner1 said: From what I’ve read, pretty much all trucks sold since September 2016 have been Euro 6. Grants are available to help with the cost of upgrading. Yes the council have to work out how they will become compliant with the air quality standards and set the clean air zone boundary accordingly. They have done that and have found that they won’t be able to achieve compliance if they don’t include the inner ring road. And they won't get to net zero unless they include EVERY road. When will it sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Surely "net zero" will happen by default one day anyway once petrol/diesel car sales are banned and they slowly fall off the road one by one as they are scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, ads36 said: You've had 6 years to prepare. Significant amounts of public money is available to help you. you have clearly never run a business 2 hours ago, Planner1 said: The station isn’t in the CAZ. Stop posting irrelevant twaddle. please advise how to drive to the station without incurring a charge if you drive a van, it may not be in the CAZ but the road leading to it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ab6262 said: you have clearly never run a business please advise how to drive to the station without incurring a charge if you drive a van, it may not be in the CAZ but the road leading to it is! Park at the top of the Amphitheatre on South Street. Easy peasy. Granted not easy if you dont like walking up steps to get to it from the station. Edited January 13, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Park at the top of the Amphitheatre on South Street. Easy peasy. Granted not easy if you dont like walking up steps to get to it from the station. there you go then answered your own question, who would? its a killer for older people especially with luggage....................and maybe the hard of thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Planner1 said: From what I’ve read, pretty much all trucks sold since September 2016 have been Euro 6. Grants are available to help with the cost of upgrading. Yes the council have to work out how they will become compliant with the air quality standards and set the clean air zone boundary accordingly. They have done that and have found that they won’t be able to achieve compliance if they don’t include the inner ring road. whatever that is and that type of truck will be out of the price for the owner operator. grants yes mountains of paperwork and proving how skint you are. they didnt try very hard then did they?? 4 hours ago, Planner1 said: Did you know that grants are available to help businesses to upgrade their vehicles? Have a look at this page for the support available. Do you not care about the air we all breathe? This is about getting nitrogen dioxide levels in the city centre below legal levels. Buses, trucks, vans and taxis are the major contributors to the poor air quality levels. The concept is “polluter pays”. its a big myth and nowhere near as bad as the doom mongers say, i thought it was carbon dioxide not nitrogen???, the vehicles you mention allow the city to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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