Sheffield Congestion Charge From Feb 27th 2023

[Planner1]

4 minutes ago, Longcol said:

So compliance can be achieved by pushing pollution away from the IRR into the suburbs near the city centre eg Broomhill, Wybourn?

Yes, it’s spread over a wider area.

[The_DADDY]

1 minute ago, Planner1 said:

Yes, it’s spread over a wider area.

Sounds like my ex's legs.

[Anna B]

I can't see how travelling further and slower on less suitable roads is going to reduce carbon emissions. Can someone explain?

[Longcol]

15 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

Yes, it’s spread over a wider area.

So the plan is to move congestion and pollution into the suburbs close to the IRR? Thought the CAZ was originally the City Centre within the IRR see #221 and #223.

 

Any explanation on ANPR not being used for holding personal data (2009) being used for charging (2021 - maybe earlier)?

Edited January 14, 2023 by Longcol

[Longcol]

11 minutes ago, Anna B said:

I can't see how travelling further and slower on less suitable roads is going to reduce carbon emissions. Can someone explain?

Nope.

[Anna B]

3 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Nope.

Another brilliant bit of SCC town centre planning?

[Longcol]

1 minute ago, Anna B said:

Another brilliant bit of SCC town centre planning?

If they'd not charged for use of the IRR I can't see many objections. Surely we want traffic on the IRR rather than through the City Centre or in the suburbs close to the IRR on less suitable roads.

 

It has been suggested that there isn't the funding to move the existing (for 10 plus years) ANPR cameras from the IRR to junctions off the IRR into the city centre - just lazy thinking IMHO - I mean, how many how many exits are their from the IRR into the city centre?

 

 

[Ghozer]

51 minutes ago, Longcol said:

So the plan is to move congestion and pollution into the suburbs close to the IRR? Thought the CAZ was originally the City Centre within the IRR see #221 and #223.

 

Any explanation on ANPR not being used for holding personal data (2009) being used for charging (2021 - maybe earlier)?

It's all coming together, with the congestion charge, and all the plant pots they have placed around lots of estates, cutting routes through (to and from the City) it's all making sense, the plant pots are there to force people onto the ring road, which will mean people HAVE to pay to use it, pocketing SCC money!!

What they don't realise, is that it will likely cause the city centre become more of a ghost town than it currently is (container park was  also meant to encourage people to go to town)

[HeHasRisen]

6 hours ago, Ghozer said:

, the plant pots are there to force people onto the ring road, which will mean people HAVE to pay to use it, pocketing SCC money!!

Please give specific examples of where one of these plant pots has been placed which forces a driver onto the ring road. Which street?

Or are you indulging in whataboutery?

Edited January 14, 2023 by HeHasRisen

[Planner1]

7 hours ago, Anna B said:

I can't see how travelling further and slower on less suitable roads is going to reduce carbon emissions. Can someone explain?

The clean air zone is the city centre. If the emissions are made elsewhere, when drivers divert over a much wider area, it will probably improve the air quality in the specific area of concern. 
 

As I said earlier the CAZ is about nitrogen dioxide emissions. It is failure to comply with legal levels of these that raised the threat of court action and led to the government obliging councils to put in CAZ’s where compliance with the legal standards can’t be achieved by other means. 
 

The drive to lower carbon emissions in general is a much wider initiative.