ab6262 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, HeHasRisen said: Which is fine, just tell me you arent interested from the outset 🤣 to be honest we do, some dont as they feel bad and obliged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnythefox Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Meltman said: Why don't you use your own trade as an example, if you have on, just makes you look like a thick c..t doesn't it! I am a recently retired welder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1961 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1801903783494447/permalink/1963369517347872/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share The above is a link to a post on Facebook that shows the air quality in Sheffield city centre is good,so why are we having this CAZ Zone imposed on us. MONEY and control that's why !!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1961 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1801903783494447/permalink/1962823240735833/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share Another very interesting post on Facebook,If Leeds got it stopped so can we https://www.facebook.com/groups/1801903783494447/permalink/1963021870715970/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share 4th of February protest 12 midday Pinstone Street 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, mike1961 said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1801903783494447/permalink/1963369517347872/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share The above is a link to a post on Facebook that shows the air quality in Sheffield city centre is good,so why are we having this CAZ Zone imposed on us. MONEY and control that's why !!! Govt imposed since the figures were over the limit and Sheffield are just tugging their forelocks and bending over despite the air now been clean except for in areas that never will go below the 40mg limit Leeds got it revoked, Manchester have delayed theirs, Sheffield is currently on its back getting its belly rubbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, sheffbag said: Govt imposed since the figures were over the limit and Sheffield are just tugging their forelocks and bending over despite the air now been clean except for in areas that never will go below the 40mg limit Leeds got it revoked, Manchester have delayed theirs, Sheffield is currently on its back getting its belly rubbed Correct me if I’m wrong, but Leeds didn’t proceed because they achieved legal compliance before the charging zone was implemented. Sheffield hasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, mike1961 said: The above is a link to a post on Facebook that shows the air quality in Sheffield city centre is good, what was the weather forecast that day? how is that scale calibrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Planner1 said: Correct me if I’m wrong, but Leeds didn’t proceed because they achieved legal compliance before the charging zone was implemented. Sheffield hasn’t. Sheffield never will comply due to the monitoring stations outside the train station and you know that. Leeds on the other hand scrapped their scheme due to the threats of legal challenges as its air quality was recorded below the limit in 2020, which was the end of the period of lock down where the air had realistically been cleaned due to lack of use on the roads. Even the Leeds council report cites the lockdown as a reason for the air being under the limit. You would see in the report though that the main street in Leeds is still over 40 yet their scheme was scrapped. https://www.leeds.gov.uk/clean-air/air-quality-annual-report And if you want to use Leeds as an example their scheme was due to start in Jan 2020 but got delayed until October 2020 before it was scrapped. I would suggest that some clever lawyers are already looking at the areas that are clean around the top of the city and getting a case ready. Manchester knew they wouldn't hit their limit before 2024 and requested additional time to bring down the levels within the proposed zone. This was granted up to 2026 so why hasn't Sheffield followed suit and requested more time as the records show a decline in pollution over the last 3 years? Looks like its working well in Birmingham too https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/more-30000-motorists-month-refusing-26108664?fbclid=IwAR042RaaumNGu6yJPfdSAXwXxm9bN4RrmtiD4fE0uHFjLF0svPDfXlzOoIM#ldjwl7i7smtu3o8vo5 Edited January 31, 2023 by sheffbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, sheffbag said: Sheffield never will comply due to the monitoring stations outside the train station and you know that. Leeds on the other hand scrapped their scheme due to the threats of legal challenges as its air quality was recorded below the limit in 2020, which was the end of the period of lock down where the air had realistically been cleaned due to lack of use on the roads. Even the Leeds council report cites the lockdown as a reason for the air being under the limit. You would see in the report though that the main street in Leeds is still over 40 yet their scheme was scrapped. https://www.leeds.gov.uk/clean-air/air-quality-annual-report And if you want to use Leeds as an example their scheme was due to start in Jan 2020 but got delayed until October 2020 before it was scrapped. I would suggest that some clever lawyers are already looking at the areas that are clean around the top of the city and getting a case ready. Manchester knew they wouldn't hit their limit before 2024 and requested additional time to bring down the levels within the proposed zone. This was granted up to 2026 so why hasn't Sheffield followed suit and requested more time as the records show a decline in pollution over the last 3 years? Looks like its working well in Birmingham too https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/more-30000-motorists-month-refusing-26108664?fbclid=IwAR042RaaumNGu6yJPfdSAXwXxm9bN4RrmtiD4fE0uHFjLF0svPDfXlzOoIM#ldjwl7i7smtu3o8vo5 Calling them monitoring stations is a bit misleading. The ones near the station are diffusion tubes, which is a small glass tube mounted on a lamp post or similar. Leeds are doing a lot of work on cutting out through traffic in their city centre, which will undoubtedly improve matters. Birmingham’s zone includes charging cars, so a lot more vehicles are involved. As far as I’m aware it is the same enforcement process as a parking or bus lane fine, so those who don’t pay can end up with a visit from bailiffs and paying much higher costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 45 minutes ago, Planner1 said: Calling them monitoring stations is a bit misleading. The ones near the station are diffusion tubes, which is a small glass tube mounted on a lamp post or similar. Leeds are doing a lot of work on cutting out through traffic in their city centre, which will undoubtedly improve matters. Birmingham’s zone includes charging cars, so a lot more vehicles are involved. As far as I’m aware it is the same enforcement process as a parking or bus lane fine, so those who don’t pay can end up with a visit from bailiffs and paying much higher costs. are they not the units, call them what you will, that are being used to provide the data to substantiate the CAZ? the name of them isnt important, they are monitoring the air quality at that point and the results from them are the reason why Sheffield is having the CAZ imposed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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