sheffbag Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Legislation wont allow the wholesale banning of vehicles from these zones, I dont think any areas does, or indeed can, do this. BIrmingham and Bristol include all vehicles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, sheffbag said: BIrmingham and Bristol include all vehicles I assumed he was on about banning all non-complaint vehicles full stop? Not charging them, just not allowed to enter at all? Edited February 8, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltman Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: What you maybe need to ask is "why are these vehicles allowed to pass MOT tests"? I've not got a problem with that. You could ask "why are the railways allowed to have polluting locomotives " going around the country.? I guess we all know the answer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Meltman said: I've not got a problem with that. You could ask "why are the railways allowed to have polluting locomotives " going around the country.? I guess we all know the answer! Yes, I have asked that question twice now ("Can, in theory, a local authority charge Train Operating Companies for bringing diesel trains into a CAZ?") and seemingly nobody knows the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltman Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: I assumed he was on about banning all non-complaint vehicles full stop? Not charging them, just not allowed to enter at all? Correct I was. Charging them is like allowing people to pay to pollute and I thought the idea was to clean up the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Meltman said: Correct I was. Charging them is like allowing people to pay to pollute and I thought the idea was to clean up the air. Suppose the theory is the charge acts as a deterrent. The legislation wont allow for vehicles just to be banned wholesale. Thats a question for central government, Edited February 8, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, busdriver1 said: What about cars licenced elsewhere like Uber use? The report I linked to and the info I posted only apply to Hackney Cabs ie black cabs. The requirements for private hire vehicles ( like Uber etc) are something completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Suppose the theory is the charge acts as a deterrent. The legislation wont allow for vehicles just to be banned wholesale. Thats a question for central government, The prospect of paying a daily fee also encourages the owners and operators of the vehicles to consider upgrading or replacing the vehicles with a compliant vehicle. There are grants available to help with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyG Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 How is 3.5k going to make a dent in upgrading a vehicle that's saying 30k + when your old vehicle is worth say 5k, and you don't have any more money!!! 24 minutes ago, Planner1 said: The prospect of paying a daily fee also encourages the owners and operators of the vehicles to consider upgrading or replacing the vehicles with a compliant vehicle. There are grants available to help with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busdriver1 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, wendyG said: How is 3.5k going to make a dent in upgrading a vehicle that's saying 30k + when your old vehicle is worth say 5k, and you don't have any more money!!! It wont, hence they will just pay the charge and then pass it on. 54 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: What you maybe need to ask is "why are these vehicles allowed to pass MOT tests"? Quite simple, the emissions level of a vehicle are set at the date of manufacture and stay at that level for its life. They can pass their MOT quite easily and be well under their level but not qualify for the CAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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