Would You Vote For A British Republic?

[Rockers rule]

1 minute ago, horribleblob said:

As can quoting the odd word derived from German/Dutch (dote) and Latin/French (age).

It's obviously worse than diagnosed 

 

Thank you Bob 

 

Have a good 2023 

Rocker 

[hackey lad]

3 minutes ago, cressida said:

Well yes,  if Hackey is Sharon I wondered if you were Tracey  - some sort of in joke or trans joke (😉)

It’s well known that on Saturday night my alter ego Sharon comes out to play, fully dressed up  

[Rockers rule]

1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

It’s well known that on Saturday night my alter ego Sharon comes out to play, fully dressed up  

Now there's a  thought to end 2022 on 

[cressida]

Each to their own🙄

[Padders]

2 minutes ago, cressida said:

Each to their own🙄

Hackey is a master of disguise, frequently seen trying to enter undetected into "Padders Bar"

[cressida]

5 minutes ago, Padders said:

Hackey is a master of disguise, frequently seen trying to enter undetected into "Padders Bar"

I know that,  does he go up that tree dressed as 'Sharon' ?

 

ok just 'playing along'

Edited December 31, 2022 by cressida

[crookesey]

10 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Hasn't  worked very well in Israel

I never said that, stop making things up. 

[trastrick]

10 hours ago, m williamson said:

I think you're wrong for two major reasons, firstly, the monarchy is divisive, many people do not agree with it and will not swear allegiance to it, which divides the country.

Some people would argue that the monarchy, as an institution, has been more uniting, than divisive. (See Great Britain vs the disparate group of countries that constitute it!)

 

There's nothing more divisive, than Labour vs Tory parties, where, even here, half the people hate the other half, and their leaders.

 

You'd have a job finding the same 65%  who support the monarchy, who would support a President from either the Labour Party or the Tories!

 

But that's just democracy for you! 

 

[m williamson]

3 hours ago, trastrick said:

Some people would argue that the monarchy, as an institution, has been more uniting, than divisive. (See Great Britain vs the disparate group of countries that constitute it!)

 

There's nothing more divisive, than Labour vs Tory parties, where, even here, half the people hate the other half, and their leaders.

 

You'd have a job finding the same 65%  who support the monarchy, who would support a President from either the Labour Party or the Tories!

 

But that's just democracy for you! 

 

No one has to swear allegiance to a political party do they? But if people want to work in certain jobs or professions in this country they are forced to take the oath of allegiance to the sovereign.

You can't be a police officer, serve in the military*, be a member of the judiciary or an MP without swearing the oath of allegiance. Which means that anyone who takes giving an oath seriously is automatically excluded from taking part in any of those occupations.

 

And that is most certainly not democracy for you! 😉

 

*The Royal Navy is the only service that doesn't swear allegiance. That's because the ' Senior Service ' was formed by Elizabeth I and being a RN sailor means that you are loyal to the sovereign without the oath.

[Dromedary]

56 minutes ago, m williamson said:

No one has to swear allegiance to a political party do they?

True but many, including some on here, are members of such political parties which also include rules about joining.

 

56 minutes ago, m williamson said:

But if people want to work in certain jobs or professions in this country they are forced to take the oath of allegiance to the sovereign.

They are not forced as they already understand that by joining they have to abide by the rules in place. 

 

56 minutes ago, m williamson said:

You can't be a police officer, serve in the military*, be a member of the judiciary or an MP without swearing the oath of allegiance. Which means that anyone who takes giving an oath seriously is automatically excluded from taking part in any of those occupations.

It's a job that people chose to do knowing that to enter into it they have to abide by the rules... as above.

 

56 minutes ago, m williamson said:

And that is most certainly not democracy for you! 😉

 

Although they may be excluded it is not anti democratic as people are not compelled to join any of those organisations against their will. That makes a big difference to the scenario. It's a law that was passed by an act of parliament so it is democratic and lawful.