Demise Of Nhs-Pay For Health Care On Horizon

[ukdobby]

Was being told the nurses are having to go to foodbanks,if that's the case God help the real low paid.

The wards in the past used to be run by a matron(Hattie Jacques😂) and the wards were always spotless,I haven't been to hospital since my mum passed away 5 years ago and believe you me they wasn't clean.

[Anna B]

10 hours ago, top4718 said:

Why do we always assume privatisation will mean it's along the lines of the US, why can't it be something akin to Germany where it's semi private and leagues ahead of the decrepit NHS?

Because we follow the US model in many things like little lapdogs. 

We never follow the Scandinavian models which come out top in most league tables for health care, education, and many other things. 

The USA has some of the worst health care, as in unafordable, uninsurable, and generally poor.

[Guest makapaka]

11 hours ago, top4718 said:

Why do we always assume privatisation will mean it's along the lines of the US, why can't it be something akin to Germany where it's semi private and leagues ahead of the decrepit NHS?

Aren’t you constantly going on about people making money off vaccines - what about making money off cancer patients?

[Beamish]

The NHS was fine for years. Why is it struggling now? Answers on a postcard please.

 

[Al Bundy]

15 minutes ago, Beamish said:

The NHS was fine for years. Why is it struggling now? Answers on a postcard please.

 

Could it possibly be that the population of the UK is increasing year on year?  More traffic,  more waiting times at hospitals and doctors, schools at capacity etc etc?

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Could it possibly be that the population of the UK is increasing year on year?  More traffic,  more waiting times at hospitals and doctors, schools at capacity etc etc?

Exactly, so we agree again.

Growing population means we need more doctors & nurses, more GP's,  more dentists, more teachers, more house building, more water.

So what we need  (Politicians favourite expression),  is more of all these things and all we ever get instead is CUTS.

 

Yes, we get plenty of talking about it but what we desperately need,   is somebody DOING it.

 

 

Edited January 5, 2023 by Organgrinder

[L00b]

36 minutes ago, Beamish said:

The NHS was fine for years. Why is it struggling now? Answers on a postcard please.

 

As requested (ignore Tweet, postcard is embedded in it, 2021 data)

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Could it possibly be that the population of the UK is increasing year on year?  More traffic,  more waiting times at hospitals and doctors, schools at capacity etc etc?

I think you’ll find that the overall ageing of the UK population year on year, is much more of a problem where the provision of healthcare is concerned, than its overall increase.

 

Demographics is amongst the UK’s (and other “1st world” countries’) biggest source of socio-economic problems. Not enough births, too many pensioners for the dwindling tax base, not enough economic growth for increasing tax receipts to match the curve.

Edited January 5, 2023 by L00b

[Dromedary]

6 hours ago, Anna B said:

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We never follow the Scandinavian models which come out top in most league tables for health care, education, and many other things. 

Yep, including suicide! Must be all that extra tax they have to pay.

 

[alchresearch]

23 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Exactly, so we agree again.

Growing population means we need more doctors & nurses, more GP's,  more dentists, more teachers, more house building, more water.

So what we need  (Politicians favourite expression),  is more of all these things and all we ever get instead is CUTS.

 

Yes, we get plenty of talking about it but what we desperately need,   is somebody DOING it.

 

 

Explain this then

 

 

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget

[Al Bundy]

38 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Exactly, so we agree again.

Growing population means we need more doctors & nurses, more GP's,  more dentists, more teachers, more house building, more water.

So what we need  (Politicians favourite expression),  is more of all these things and all we ever get instead is CUTS.

 

Yes, we get plenty of talking about it but what we desperately need,   is somebody DOING it.

 

 

Yes, absolutely.

 

However, I think it's fair to say that over the past 12 years or so there are more and more folk working from home, working online and unfortunately a large majority of young ladies, rather than want to be nurses are more interested in having onlyfans accounts as they can make more in one year than they can in 20 working as a nurse.

Lots of younguns are digital nomads. Sad, but true.

 

That's not controversial, it's a fact.

Edited January 5, 2023 by Al Bundy