L00b Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Oh dear. What a silly escalation by the West. Western nations supply antitank, antiaircraft armaments: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply personal weapons, shells, MRAPs: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply artillery systems: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply antiradar missiles: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply tanks: it’s an escalation by the West Russia invades Chechnya. Twice. Not an escalation Russia invades Georgia. Not an escalation Russia installs little green men across Donbas. Not an escalation Russian little green men down a Dutch civilian airliner. Not an escalation Russia lends little green men to suppress the Euromaidan protests. Bloodily. Not an escalation Russia invades Crimea. Not an escalation Russia invades Ukraine. Not an escalation Russian soldiers rape, pillage and murder civilians daily for 11 months. Not an escalation Russia deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Not an escalation Putin threatens nuclear escalation if he doesn’t get his imperialistic way. Not an escalation Get a grip sometime, yeah? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Axe said: Western nations have been supplying Ukraine with military equipment since the start of the war. Supplying tanks is no different to supplying other military equipment to Ukraine. Iran has been supplying military equipment to Russia and are not a target for Western nations for that reason. As long as Western troops keep out of the action there is no change from what has been happening from day one of the war. I personally do not think Ukraine with the help of Western tanks will help them win the war but it will keep the war lasting longer. It's been said in the news, the longer this drags on the more it will tip in Russia's favour. They are willing to win by attrition, whatever the cost. If that means destroying Ukraine piece by piece and sacrificing thousands if not millions of their own troops, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Ukraine will be Putin's folly and the world will be better for his defeat. Praise to Germany for taking up a leadership roll in the face of the tyrant's threats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, L00b said: Western nations supply antitank, antiaircraft armaments: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply personal weapons, shells, MRAPs: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply artillery systems: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply antiradar missiles: it’s an escalation by the West Western nations supply tanks: it’s an escalation by the West Russia invades Chechnya. Twice. Not an escalation Russia invades Georgia. Not an escalation Russia installs little green men across Donbas. Not an escalation Russian little green men down a Dutch civilian airliner. Not an escalation Russia lends little green men to suppress the Euromaidan protests. Bloodily. Not an escalation Russia invades Crimea. Not an escalation Russia invades Ukraine. Not an escalation Russian soldiers rape, pillage and murder civilians daily for 11 months. Not an escalation Russia deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure. Not an escalation Putin threatens nuclear escalation if he doesn’t get his imperialistic way. Not an escalation Get a grip sometime, yeah? Supplying main battle tanks to Ukraine most certainly is an escalation. A stupid and dangerous one too. Let's just hope it will be ukrainian tank operators and not British, German and American ones. The thought of that makes my blood run cold. Edited January 25, 2023 by The_DADDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, geared said: It's been said in the news, the longer this drags on the more it will tip in Russia's favour. They are willing to win by attrition, whatever the cost. If that means destroying Ukraine piece by piece and sacrificing thousands if not millions of their own troops, then so be it. What you write is true. It was reported at the end of last year that Russia has the World's largest tank factory and prisoners have been sent there to help build the tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) When Putin was getting ready to invade Ukraine Liz Truss who was the Foreign Secretary at the time was correct when she said Ukraine are more prepared this time to take on Russia and they will put up a fight if Russia try’s to invade Ukraine. They certainly have put up a fight. I was one of those who thought it would be over in a few weeks. Mr Putin must be frustrated with his military and now he has to contend with the West supplying Ukraine with tanks. Edited January 25, 2023 by hauxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, ab6262 said: So the USA , Germany and UK are sending tanks to Ukraine to bolster their forces in the battle against Putins Army, looks like a world war its Nato v Russia by proxy, not very clever surely Putin will eventually take this as an act of war by the west?????? Sending tanks to Ukraine for them to bravely defend their own country from an expansionist madman who thinks he's Peter The Great and would stop at nothing to re-establish the USR (USSR minus S for socialist) ? Not before time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, hauxwell said: When Putin was getting ready to invade Ukraine Liz Truss who was the Foreign Secretary at the time was correct when she said Ukraine are more prepared this time to take on Russia and they will put up a fight if Russia try’s to invade Ukraine. They certainly have put up a fight. I was one of those who thought it would The doomsday’s be over in a few weeks. Mr Putin must be frustrated with his military and now he has to contend with the West supplying Ukraine with tanks. The Doomsday clock has now been set to 90 seconds to midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Axe said: What you write is true. It was reported at the end of last year that Russia has the World's largest tank factory and prisoners have been sent there to help build the tanks. It was also reported they had been sent to the front line to serve with Wagner. They may have a large tank factory, but they don't have access to the tech needed to equip them, goodness knows what they might end up producing. It may be limited to lighter infantry fighting vehicles and self-propelled artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Putin has been made to look like a fool. He has an army that’s not fit for purpose. At first I thought there was a chance that he might use nuclear or chemicals weapons when things were not going to plan in the first few months of the war. Now as time passes I don’t think he will, but that’s just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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