How Many Sheffielders Will Be Helping Mr Hunt?

[Anna B]

On 30/01/2023 at 13:40, blackydog said:

Is that actually legal?

It could be made legal.

It could be voluntary to do the work, (with the caveat that it would be considered to be advantageous in getting a work permit if they are eventually accepted into the country for example...)

[bassett one]

this would be a start,plus retrain our unemployed and do more skill training for those not going to uni

[Baron99]

19 minutes ago, bassett one said:

this would be a start,plus retrain our unemployed and do more skill training for those not going to uni

That's part of what the Home Office introduced the Immigration Skills Charge for back in 2017.  For every migrant worker employed by a UK business they have to pay an additional charge to the Home Office.  The details of the last financial year, 2021 - 2022, show that £349 million was collected.  This money is supposed to fund training, apprenticeships, etc for UK workers. 

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2022-12-05/debates/A2FF519D-FE5B-4845-92BC-D499FDC66CAE/ImmigrationSkillsCharge(Amendment)Regulations2022

[bassett one]

they have also come up with another idea now and thats to bring in a law making it possible to keep more of there universal credit or other income so more OAPS and unemployed can work

[MJ01]

4 hours ago, bassett one said:

they have also come up with another idea now and thats to bring in a law making it possible to keep more of there universal credit or other income so more OAPS and unemployed can work

Stop making things up

[bassett one]

fact from mr hunt,not done yet ,but they are looking into reducing the percentage that universal credit takes off people who work,to give them more money to encourage people to work and also make sure they have more money the more they work,they have to get staff,workers ect as theres such a shortage a another huge famous wedding venue used in the famous tv series has had to stop weddings as theres no staff,dont forget the tory MPS are being constantly pressed by companys saying they need staff,check out the nation news about farmers ploughing food into the fields as theres no workers,shops having a huge shortage,app;e orchards being destroyed because theres no workers,builders have shortages and you say its all lies.theres a national shortage of workers since voted brexit,our workers were supposed to fill the gap and thus make england richer,but its failed and we need workers.

[MJ01]

21 minutes ago, bassett one said:

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fact from mr hunt, not done yet 

So is it a fact or is it 'not done yet'?

Can you buy a ticket for the Meadowhead bullet train - or doesn't it exist yet?

Just because Geoff on Lowedges Forum says something, it doesn't necessarily means it's true - you do know that, don't you?

Edited February 6, 2023 by MJ01

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, bassett one said:

fact from mr hunt,not done yet ,but they are looking into reducing the percentage that universal credit takes off people who work,to give them more money to encourage people to work and also make sure they have more money the more they work,they have to get staff,workers ect as theres such a shortage a another huge famous wedding venue used in the famous tv series has had to stop weddings as theres no staff,dont forget the tory MPS are being constantly pressed by companys saying they need staff,check out the nation news about farmers ploughing food into the fields as theres no workers,shops having a huge shortage,app;e orchards being destroyed because theres no workers,builders have shortages and you say its all lies.theres a national shortage of workers since voted brexit,our workers were supposed to fill the gap and thus make england richer,but its failed and we need workers.

There are many reasons British workers cannot do these jobs, the most pressing being that they cannot afford to live on the poor wages they pay as their costs are considerably more than that of itinerant or casual workers. They may also be highly unreliable 0 hours contract work. They also may not have transport (or public transport) to get to out of town farm locations. People are getting poorer. It's pretty shocking that a working man can't afford the very basics of life; a roof over his head, food on the table and the cost of soaring energy bills and utilities .

 

Universal credit is a complicated nightmare. The criteria for claims are constantly changing, and the amount difficult to calculate especially if the hours someone works is constantly changing. Yet it was supposedly designed to make the system easier. Another Tory lie. Mistakes/underpayments tie people up in knots/arguments for months as it is, and this will add to the mayhem. UC needs scrapping altogether.

 

Let's not forget that Boris Johnson was the chief instigator for Britain coming out of the EU and led the 'leave' campaign. He convinced a lot of people to vote leave with his lies, and for that he has never been held responsible. They made him Prime Minister instead.... that worked out well didn't it?  

Also please note farmers have always had to plough some food crops back into the fields every year. It's nothing new. If they are considered the wrong size by supermarkets, they won't accept them, so back into the soil they go. 

Edited February 6, 2023 by Anna B

[bassett one]

the farms used to get lots of european workers ,but since we left the common market they have found work elsewhere and boris thought that farm work and shop work and building work all basic labouring jobs would be filled by our own workers ,thats failed so now they are looking at more universal allowances so the people find it worth doing extra hours and mr hunt is now also as it says wants OAPS to help out,whatever anyone thinks its a mess and it wants sorting,DOWTON ABBEY THE FAMOUS tv serial has announced today that due to staff shortages they cannot offer weddings any longer,the only other choice is we let migrants in for work to solve the problem.

[Anna B]

12 hours ago, bassett one said:

the farms used to get lots of european workers ,but since we left the common market they have found work elsewhere and boris thought that farm work and shop work and building work all basic labouring jobs would be filled by our own workers ,thats failed so now they are looking at more universal allowances so the people find it worth doing extra hours and mr hunt is now also as it says wants OAPS to help out,whatever anyone thinks its a mess and it wants sorting,DOWTON ABBEY THE FAMOUS tv serial has announced today that due to staff shortages they cannot offer weddings any longer,the only other choice is we let migrants in for work to solve the problem.

The sort of jobs that need filling are not the sort that OAPs can usually do. Picking crops in the fields? Back breaking work, and OAPs have enough problems with backs. Changing sheets and making beds in double quick time in hospitality? Sorry but I have enough trouble with my own bed and duvet cover. Building work? Forget it....

 

The only reason they are suggesting OAPs is that they need to supplement their pension,

- which is also not enough to live on.