Sheffield Becoming A 15 Minute City

[iansheff]

Below is link to an article on MSN by Yorkshire Live.

 

Yorkshire Tory MP slams '15 minute cities' as 'socialist' plot (msn.com)

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11 minutes ago, iansheff said:

Below is link to an article on MSN by Yorkshire Live.

 

Yorkshire Tory MP slams '15 minute cities' as 'socialist' plot (msn.com)

When the Tory government is making the councils do it.

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if was part of a shadowy secret Global Government, and looking to keep people poor, and under control. I would definitely want them to keep buying and driving cars.

 

happily handing over *thousands* of pounds, every year, to banks, insurance companies, oil companies, in return for an illusion of freedom,  a vague sense of prestige, and shortening their lives (dramatically) through inactivity.

 

here in reality : the whole 15min neighbourhood thing can be reduced to a single, simple question: do we want more walking to the shops, or less?

 

(you can re-phrase it to suit your own priorities : more kids walking to school? or fewer? - but it's basically the same question)

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I walk every day and always have done without the need for a 15 minute city.

I don't believe you will ever get more kids walking to school or, more people walking to shops.

My area will never be a 15 minute area because there is too much missing from it.

Yes, the control bit fits.

 

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1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

When the Tory government is making the councils do it.

How do you come to that conclusion?

 

The government have given London Borough of Newham some money to implement them there, but I’m not aware that there is any policy by central government to promote them.

22 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

I don't believe you will ever get more kids walking to school or, more people walking to shops.

The results from low traffic neighbourhoods schemes in London suggest that more people will walk and cycle if you make it safer and more pleasant for them to do so.

 

Low traffic neighbourhoods aren’t 15 minute cities though. 

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1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

I don't believe you will ever get more kids walking to school or, more people walking to shops.

here's a local example :

 

every morning, a few dozen (?) kids have to cross a busy main road, to get to school.

 

we've prioritised driving, over kids getting safely to school. As a result, lots of people are driving their kids to the school that's LITERALLY OVER THE ROAD.

 

why the hell isn't there a controlled crossing point ?!

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[RollingJ]

4 minutes ago, ads36 said:

here's a local example :

 

every morning, a few dozen (?) kids have to cross a busy main road, to get to school.

 

we've prioritised driving, over kids getting safely to school. As a result, lots of people are driving their kids to the school that's LITERALLY OVER THE ROAD.

 

why the hell isn't there a controlled crossing point ?!

Could these drivers not escort their children across the road?

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1 minute ago, RollingJ said:

Could these drivers not escort their children across the road?

to be honest, it's a bloody horrible road to cross.

 

because, evidently, there is hell to pay if we even think about causing a driver any momentary inconvenience.

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Just now, ads36 said:

to be honest, it's a bloody horrible road to cross.

 

because, evidently, there is hell to pay if we even think about causing a driver any momentary inconvenience.

including of course, all these drivers just 'taking their kids to school'.

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er... yes? - i am sure that some of them would grumble about a new pedestrian crossing point.

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