Sheffield Becoming A 15 Minute City

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48 minutes ago, ads36 said:

here's a local example :

 

every morning, a few dozen (?) kids have to cross a busy main road, to get to school.

 

we've prioritised driving, over kids getting safely to school. As a result, lots of people are driving their kids to the school that's LITERALLY OVER THE ROAD.

 

why the hell isn't there a controlled crossing point ?!

Because there simply isn’t sufficient money available to put in signalled crossings at every location where a few dozen folk might cross a road.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, Planner1 said:

Because there simply isn’t sufficient money available to put in signalled crossings at every location where a few dozen folk might cross a road.

Help - I'm agreeing with you for once! 😉

As said before why don't these people escort their kids over said road?

[ads36]

9 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

As said before why don't these people escort their kids over said road?

some do - they're also at risk, it's a horrible road to cross.

 

why have we built an environment which makes it difficult to walk short distances?

[RollingJ]

Just now, ads36 said:

some do - they're also at risk, it's a horrible road to cross.

 

why have we built an environment which makes it difficult to walk short distances?

Which road?

[ads36]

Greenhill Parkway.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, ads36 said:

Greenhill Parkway.

Fair enough. Not in an area I visit often, s I will refrain from commenting at the moment, if I visit my relative who lives just off it, I'll take a look - as a pedestrian.

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4 hours ago, Planner1 said:

How do you come to that conclusion?

 

The government have given London Borough of Newham some money to implement them there, but I’m not aware that there is any policy by central government to promote them.

The results from low traffic neighbourhoods schemes in London suggest that more people will walk and cycle if you make it safer and more pleasant for them to do so.

 

Low traffic neighbourhoods aren’t 15 minute cities though. 

The press says it is a socialist plot.

You told us yourself that the Government was making the councils do it.

So the Tories blame Labour and you and Labour blame the Tories.

 

If Low traffic neighbourhoods are so good - Why haven't we got any?

I can remember years back, they were going to stop parking outside schools.

Never happened.

And nothing ever happens regarding anything but you still defend the useless council.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Planner1 said:

Because there simply isn’t sufficient money available to put in signalled crossings at every location where a few dozen folk might cross a road.

There is always sufficient money available to do things that the council really wants though.

That's how they manage to dig half mile long holes up and fill them in again.

That's how they manage to keep re-paving around the Crucible and peace gardens when the pavement at Manor top outside the shops is a disgrace.

The council spends money repeatedly on one half square mile of land and the rest of the city is ignored. 

[Planner1]

1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

The press says it is a socialist plot.

You told us yourself that the Government was making the councils do it.

So the Tories blame Labour and you and Labour blame the Tories.

 

If Low traffic neighbourhoods are so good - Why haven't we got any?

I can remember years back, they were going to stop parking outside schools.

Never happened.

And nothing ever happens regarding anything but you still defend the useless council.

 

 

I’ve never said anything of the sort and neither have I blamed anyone.

 

No the government are not forcing 15 min neighbourhoods on anyone.

 

You are confusing several things. ( probably deliberately). It’s CAZ’s they are forcing on some councils.

 

Saying the government has given money to one council to implement 15 min neighbourhoods isn’t blaming anyone. It’s a statement of fact.

 

There are low traffic neighbourhoods in Sheffield. There’s one in Crookes. It’s been discussed on here. 

 

There are school entrance clearway markings at pretty much every school where they can be put in. They are enforced by vehicle mounted automatic cameras. What more do you think they can do?

 

Nothing ever happens about anything? Clearly an utter lie, but let’s not let the truth get in the way of yet another moan.

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1 hour ago, Planner1 said:

I’ve never said anything of the sort and neither have I blamed anyone.

 

No the government are not forcing 15 min neighbourhoods on anyone.

 

You are confusing several things. ( probably deliberately). It’s CAZ’s they are forcing on some councils.

 

Saying the government has given money to one council to implement 15 min neighbourhoods isn’t blaming anyone. It’s a statement of fact.

 

There are low traffic neighbourhoods in Sheffield. There’s one in Crookes. It’s been discussed on here. 

 

There are school entrance clearway markings at pretty much every school where they can be put in. They are enforced by vehicle mounted automatic cameras. What more do you think they can do?

 

Nothing ever happens about anything? Clearly an utter lie, but let’s not let the truth get in the way of yet another moan.

So the plant pots etc are not the governments idea but the councils. Well, at least we know who to blame.

School entrance clearway markings are no good at all when they are not  being enforced by "vehicle mounted automatic cameras" as you state"

I walk past 2 schools (sometimes 3) almost every day and have never seen any patrols, enforcement vehicles or anything else.

The council said, and it was reported in The Star, that they were going to stop all parking NEAR SCHOOLS, not just at the gate.

This never happened  and saying that is not a lie.

Perhaps you will let us know how many people those imaginary enforcement vehicles have pulled and what kind of enforcement has actually taken place.