HeHasRisen Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, max said: What is this "the council" of what you speak? Do you mean elected members, council officers or contracted workers? Dont poke the bear , you will get an unintelligible stream of consciousness back. This is someone who said only yesterday a local authority should never sue anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 22 hours ago, Organgrinder said: The press says it is a socialist plot. You told us yourself that the Government was making the councils do it. So the Tories blame Labour and you and Labour blame the Tories. If Low traffic neighbourhoods are so good - Why haven't we got any? I can remember years back, they were going to stop parking outside schools. Never happened. And nothing ever happens regarding anything but you still defend the useless council. Yes it's a brilliant system isn't it? Anything goes wrong, and nobody can be held accountable. Tell you what, let's just blame the socialists instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Anna B said: Yes it's a brilliant system isn't it? Anything goes wrong, and nobody can be held accountable. Tell you what, let's just blame the socialists instead.... Exactly. This has been going on years and nothing ever changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, max said: What is this "the council" of what you speak? Do you mean elected members, council officers or contracted workers? Or, he will just ignore you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Dont poke the bear , you will get an unintelligible stream of consciousness back. This is someone who said only yesterday a local authority should never sue anyone. He didn't say that. He was questioning the amount of money being spent on legal fees and court cases, when the council cocks things up yet again . Lawyers don't come cheap. They must be rubbing their hands in glee when SCC get involved. What's wrong with expecting these well paid 'professionals' and advisors to get it right in the first place? Edited February 22, 2023 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, Anna B said: He didn't say that Yes he did. He was asked this: So by implication, you think they shouldn’t sue anyone, so those folk who they have a reason to seek redress in court against can get away with anything as they know the council won’t resort to the courts? To which his reply was: That's exactly right. https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/482216-sheffield-council-could-be-suing-moor-owners/?do=findComment&comment=8634116 Absolutely nonsensical attitude to litigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Anna B said: Yes it's a brilliant system isn't it? Anything goes wrong, and nobody can be held accountable. Tell you what, let's just blame the socialists instead.... Except that what they’ve said is basically a lie. No one ever said that the government is making councils do it ( 15 min zones). They aren’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Anna B said: He didn't say that. He was questioning the amount of money being spent on legal fees and court cases, when the council cocks things up yet again . Lawyers don't come cheap. They must be rubbing their hands in glee when SCC get involved. What's wrong with expecting these well paid 'professionals' and advisors to get it right in the first place? Sorry but they did say exactly that, it was a conversation with me. How do you or anyone else know what money the council spends on legal fees? care to quote the figure if you’ve found one? And how do you know that any of it is because of council **** ups as you put it? The council covers a huge range of functions and has an enormous number of contracts with various companies and organisations. The council spends £1.5 billion pounds a year. What proportion of that is spent on legal fees? A very tiny one I’d expect. Any organisation of that size and nature is occasionally going to need to take action in court. ( they do have their own in-house lawyers you know). That’s nothing to do with the competency of the council, it’s just the way people and organisations are. Sometimes, despite your best efforts, you can’t resolve things amicably and have to use legal process. As a lawyer friend of mine said, “If lawyers could agree on everything, we wouldn’t need courts” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Anna B said: What's wrong with expecting these well paid 'professionals' and advisors to get it right in the first place? The vast majority of the time they do. The only time you hear about it is the very few occasions when it doesn’t go quite right. So what do you think should happen when the councils professionals do get it right, but the party they have a contract with don’t deliver what they are contracted to? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Post a link to the actual proposal please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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