Guest Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, altus said: The Oxford scheme doesn't prevent you from driving to an area without a pass. It might encourage you to use the ring road to get there but it doesn't prevent you from driving there without a pass. Making exaggerated (i.e. inaccurate) claims about something in an attempt to boost your argument undermines it rather than enhances it. Where have I made an exaggerated or inaccurate claim? We know all these trial schemes are taking place or are planned at various places in this country. CAZ, Low traffic neighbourhood, and 15 minute cities. We believe that most councils will try to implement them and to join them up with each other. The reason being that, after having many years to do something about increasing traffic, air pollution etc. council and governments have done absolutely nothing. They are now in a position where they have to catch up quickly and, as I keep saying, WE DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS. If you want to put your faith in them, that's fine but, we will make our minds up without your help or interference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 50 minutes ago, ads36 said: i live about as far south in Sheffield as is possible. and i do exactly that every day - there are even some people cycling past me - i'm really not fast! (it's 20mins on the way home, but it is uphill) If it's so easy why do we not see all the Councillors doing it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) one of my local Councillors does - that i know of... and a fair few council employees. There are some horrible bits of road - riding back up Bocking Lane really doesn't feel safe! (and the less said about Hutcliffe Wood rd the better - yikes!) Edited March 6, 2023 by ads36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Where have I made an exaggerated or inaccurate claim? You don't think 2 hours ago, Organgrinder said: I DO NOT ACCEPT BUS GATES WHICH ARE PUT IN PLACE TO KEEP US OUT OF AN AREA UNLESS WE HAVE A PASS. is exaggerated? It certainly doesn't apply to the Oxford scheme. If you think it's not an exaggeration, please provide an example of such a scheme to demonstrate that it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, ads36 said: i live about as far south in Sheffield as is possible. and i do exactly that every day - there are even some people cycling past me - i'm really not fast! (it's 20mins on the way home, but it is uphill) 1 hour ago, ads36 said: it's only 4miles, that's only 12mph - a leisurely pace! 48 minutes ago, ads36 said: one of my local Councillors does - that i know of... and a fair few council employees. There are some horrible bits of road - riding back up Bocking Lane really doesn't feel safe! (and the less said about Hutcliffe Wood rd the better - yikes!) Hmmm... Now according to Mr Google... ... Meadowhead to city centre via Hutcliffe Wood Road is 5.0 miles. So either you DON'T live 'as far south as possible' or you're underestimating the distance to suit your argument. Either way, at least one of those is clearly false! I'll leave people to make their own minds up about any other claims you make... ... or if Mr Google is telling porkies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Now according to Mr Google... ... Meadowhead to city centre via Hutcliffe Wood Road is 5.0 miles. So either you DON'T live 'as far south as possible' or you're underestimating the distance to suit your argument. Either way, at least one of those is clearly false! I'll leave people to make their own minds up about any other claims you make... ... or if Mr Google is telling porkies! I would have said that but you beat me to it. ads36 is the one telling porkies. I could give him cycle rides, which I used to do regularly, that are only part way to the Town Hall which he could not do in 15 minutes. guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, altus said: You don't think is exaggerated? It certainly doesn't apply to the Oxford scheme. If you think it's not an exaggeration, please provide an example of such a scheme to demonstrate that it's not. That is not what I said, if you read my posts properly. As you don't appear to know how far a mile is, it doesn't make much difference anyway If you would like to ride a route, which is only part way to town, to my home in 15 minutes, I would very much like to watch. f you could do it, you would have to add another 10 minutes on to make it to the town hall but you would fail anyway. Don't make me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Now according to Mr Google... ... Meadowhead to city centre via Hutcliffe Wood Road is 5.0 miles. So either you DON'T live 'as far south as possible' or you're underestimating the distance to suit your argument. Either way, at least one of those is clearly false! I'll leave people to make their own minds up about any other claims you make... ... or if Mr Google is telling porkies! Google Maps from the petrol station at the roundabout to Sheffield Town Hall is 4.1m if you change it to walking, which no doubt many bikes use the exact same route as cyclists love going on pavements. No idea why he is adding a mile on going another way. Edited March 6, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busdriver1 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Organgrinder said: You are just talking rubbish. well that needs to stop, that quota has already been filled hasn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Google Maps from the petrol station at the roundabout to Sheffield Town Hall is 4.1m if you change it to walking, which no doubt many bikes use the exact same route as cyclists love going on pavements. No idea why he is adding a mile on going another way. Hmmm... I hope you're NOT suggesting that Mr ads36 might work at the Town Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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