Sheffield Becoming A 15 Minute City

[HeHasRisen]

1 minute ago, HumbleNarrator said:

You've run out steam now haven't you. lol.

Physician!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, makapaka said:

Absolute classic conspiracy theory here

 

“ “they” will definitely do something at some point because I believe “they” will (without any evidence or motive) - you’re gullible if you don’t believe me.”

People are already paying if they go through bus gates now. That's fact, not conspiracy.

Why should we need to apply for permits to get from A to B?

What happens if we don't have a permit?    We are made to pay, whether by fine or whatever.

Guess who's gullible?

 

 

 

[Planner1]

1 hour ago, top4718 said:

Not at all, councils are committed to hit zero carbon emissions by 2030, if you think that isn't going to result in some sort of restrictions then you are very naive indeed.

 

 

Yeah, but those targets are not legally binding, so it isn’t really a problem if they aren’t achieved.

[HeHasRisen]

2 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

Yeah, but those targets are not legally binding, so it isn’t really a problem if they aren’t achieved.

Also it only relates to the "council operations" of a local authority, but he knows that and is clearly trolling.

 

Lambeth - https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/environmental-services/climate-change-impact-and-plans/becoming-carbon-neutral-council-2030/what-constitutes-councils-operations

[top4718]

1 hour ago, HeHasRisen said:

Post a link to this statement please.

Two at random, item J of SCC's motion that I posted last night also mentions it.

 

https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/residents/environment-and-planning/energy-and-climate-change/net-zero-2030

 

https://news.canterbury.gov.uk/campaign/climate-action/

[HeHasRisen]

1 minute ago, top4718 said:

Two at random, item J of SCC's motion that I posted last night also mentions it.

 

https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/residents/environment-and-planning/energy-and-climate-change/net-zero-2030

 

https://news.canterbury.gov.uk/campaign/climate-action/

Yup, see mine above in post 506. It clearly relates to the operations of a local authority only.

 

Nice try, though.

Edited March 17, 2023 by HeHasRisen

[Planner1]

35 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

People are already paying if they go through bus gates now. That's fact, not conspiracy.

Why should we need to apply for permits to get from A to B?

What happens if we don't have a permit?    We are made to pay, whether by fine or whatever.

Guess who's gullible?

 

 

 

People pay a penalty if they contravene a restriction.

 

They have a choice, use the alternative routes and pay nothing.

 

 

[top4718]

6 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

Yeah, but those targets are not legally binding, so it isn’t really a problem if they aren’t achieved.

So are they not going to bother trying to achieve them, they're agenda claims it's their "goal"?

[HeHasRisen]

Just now, HumbleNarrator said:

Err, yessss and this will be the case with the restrictions and bus gates etc, that will come with a 15 minute city, which us the point being made. What are you arguing about? Are you saying, they'll be no penalty in the form of a fine for driving where you shouldn't in a 15 minute city??

Let me type this slowly. In small words. And in bold. And in red.

 

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Geddit?

[Planner1]

2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

So are they not going to bother trying to achieve them, they're agenda claims it's their "goal"?

Yeah it’s their goal, but there’s no penalty if they don’t achieve it. ( other than political embarrassment) 

 

Councils like to set themselves “stretch” targets and try to deliver on them “at pace” these days.

 

They like to be seen as doing something and pushing the agenda, it’s what politicians do. It’s a response to a public perception that councils are slow to act.