Anna B Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ads36 said: the policies in the 2019 'Corbyn' manifesto were popular - when they were anonymised - it's Corbyn himself that turned people off. from youGov See post 67 above. Corbyn's manifesto was socialist. Not only was his manifesto popular, Corbyn galvanised politics for the first time in years and the turnout was bigger than ever. They were voting for change, and Corbyn had the passion and belief to deliver that change. Starmer never will, especially now he's expelled the socialists... Edited March 31, 2023 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Anna B said: See post 67 above. Corbyn's manifesto was socialist. Not only was his manifesto popular, Corbyn galvanised politics for the first time in years and the turnout was bigger than ever. They were voting for change, and Corbyn had the passion and belief to deliver that change. Starmer never will, especially now he's expelled the socialists... I think the days of true socialism are over in this country. One of the basic reasons is that the majority of people have more wealth and possessions than one or two generations ago and therefore more to lose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 we need the lib/dems in sheffield asap and lets see the changes but they will need a few years say 6 to prove the change and sir kier in charge of the country as he makes all the tories look idiots,and all the tories can sling back at him is to call him a lawyer,well his ideas are better than this lot thats in power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Anna B said: I hate to remind you, but that with Corbyn in charge he managed to wipe the floor with Theresa May as prime minister. The Conservatives lost their huge majority, and the swing towards Labour was huge and they almost won. Seems to be a popular myth among the Corbynistas - fact is Labour got 55 seats less than the Tories in 2017. Edited March 31, 2023 by Longcol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Anyone mentioned the antisemitism yet? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 If only the general public had been given the chance to vote in a general election for a Labour party run by Jeremy Corbyn. Oh wait, they were. Twice. And Jeremy lost twice, thus ensuring 7 more years of Tory rule. Jeremy seems like a really nice guy, with his heart in the right place, etc. The trouble is he has absolutely no leadership skills, which meant that the Tories were able run rings round him. The antisemitism allegations may have been unfair, and may have been unfairly played up by those wishing ill towards him, but the fact remains that he didn't have the political skills to bat the allegations away. In 2016, 23 of his 31 shadow cabinet members resigned, and this was followed by a vote of no confidence by his party MPs which he lost 172–40. Refusing to resign at that point was sheer lunacy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 hours ago, HeHasRisen said: Anyone mentioned the antisemitism yet? No? In local elections ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I wonder how the Chinese hold their elections🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: I wonder how the Chinese hold their elections🤔 Like this.....😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, dave_the_m said: If only the general public had been given the chance to vote in a general election for a Labour party run by Jeremy Corbyn. Oh wait, they were. Twice. And Jeremy lost twice, thus ensuring 7 more years of Tory rule. Jeremy seems like a really nice guy, with his heart in the right place, etc. The trouble is he has absolutely no leadership skills, which meant that the Tories were able run rings round him. The antisemitism allegations may have been unfair, and may have been unfairly played up by those wishing ill towards him, but the fact remains that he didn't have the political skills to bat the allegations away. In 2016, 23 of his 31 shadow cabinet members resigned, and this was followed by a vote of no confidence by his party MPs which he lost 172–40. Refusing to resign at that point was sheer lunacy. He’s subsequently proved himself to be even more hapless by engineering his own demise as a Labour candidate. I’m sure that he thought that he could call Starmer’s bluff with his Facebook rant. All he’s really done is to give the moderates in the party an opportunity to ditch him and to marginalise the rest of momentum. Starmer must be astounded at Corbyn’s naivety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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