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[Guest sibon]

33 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

 

 

Quite often tries slapping his parents when he is really upset, usually when we remove him from the computer.

He gets told off for it, but I accept he's obsessed with that bloody computer, yet more reason I wish I was bringing him up to the 70s or 80s.  

I’m not sure why you want to time travel back to the 70s. Is it because you’d have more latitude to beat your kid?

 

Your answer shows one of the problems with corporal punishment. You are teaching him that violence is the way to resolve problems. That’s why he tries to hit you back.

 

I suggest that you enrol in some parenting classes, or at least buy a book to help you to work out other ways of sorting your lad’s poor behaviour out.

 

I’ll leave you with two pieces of advice:

 

1. Positive reinforcement of good behaviour is more effective than punishment of bad behaviour.

 

2. Hitting anyone is wrong.

[Guest sibon]

12 minutes ago, Hecate said:

 

 

Do I need to be a parent to know that hitting a child is not a good thing?  How about those parents who've also made the same point?

In my experience, it is usually the parents who are the problem, not the child.

[Al Bundy]

41 minutes ago, sibon said:

I’m not sure why you want to time travel back to the 70s. Is it because you’d have more latitude to beat your kid?

 

Your answer shows one of the problems with corporal punishment. You are teaching him that violence is the way to resolve problems. That’s why he tries to hit you back.

 

I suggest that you enrol in some parenting classes, or at least buy a book to help you to work out other ways of sorting your lad’s poor behaviour out.

 

I’ll leave you with two pieces of advice:

 

1. Positive reinforcement of good behaviour is more effective than punishment of bad behaviour.

 

2. Hitting anyone is wrong.

Don't mistake hitting for a quick slap on the ankles or bottom.

 

There is a massive difference.

[Chekhov]

58 minutes ago, Hecate said:

I know what you said.  Quoting and requoting it - and ignoring the posts in which I responded to your dictionary definition of 'slap' - isn't going to detract from the fact that you said that you hit your child as a form of discipline,

You are trolling, you are persistently and deliberately misquoting me to further your trolling, I actually said :

 

Hitting is striking someone (usually punching or kicking them) with the intention to cause pain and possible injury, so yes I would agree they should be in serious trouble.

However, slapping a wilfully naughty child does not come under that definition and it doesn't even hurt them that much. I would point out, BTW, that I only slap my lad when he has been deliberately and seriously disobedient and/or doing something dangerous. Furthermore, when we discipline him differently, which is the vast majority of the time (e.g. no computer time today), he often pleads with me to slap him instead. I decline obviously.

 

58 minutes ago, Hecate said:

Do I need to be a parent to know that hitting a child is not a good thing?  How about those parents who've also made the same point?

Personally I would not be so up front criticising others parenting if one knows very little about it. And that is not being as  critical as it sounds, parenting is even more difficult than I thought it would be before I had a child.

Edited April 2, 2023 by Chekhov

[Chekhov]

9 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Don't mistake hitting for a quick slap on the ankles or bottom.

There is a massive difference.

These people will make that mistake, because for these virtue signalling lefties nothing is too extreme. They  are quite happy to ban me from videoing my own child racing, and after he won his first ever Fly race (and I was unable to record anything about it) I will NEVER forgive them for it. 

But what is even more significant, most of those on here being critical of me are the same ones who were up in arms over my assertion I should be able to record the achievements of my child, and they haven't got any kids themselves.

 

[Chekhov]

55 minutes ago, sibon said:

I’m not sure why you want to time travel back to the 70s. Is it because you’d have more latitude to beat your kid

Your answer shows one of the problems with corporal punishment. You are teaching him that violence is the way to resolve problems. That’s why he tries to hit you back.

I suggest that you enrol in some parenting classes, or at least buy a book to help you to work out other ways of sorting your lad’s poor behaviour out.

I’ll leave you with two pieces of advice:

1. Positive reinforcement of good behaviour is more effective than punishment of bad behaviour.

2. Hitting anyone is wrong.

My lad's behaviour is fine thanks, he hardly ever gets even on Amber at school.

I'll tell you something which you will not want to hear but which is true none the less, the biggest issue with the behaviour of boys at school is the lack of a father. One lad in particular used to be a lovely boy, one of my favourites. His Dad left the Mum and a few years down the line he's frequently on Amber or even Red. That's not just co-incidence. I feel sorry for the Mum bringing up kids on her own it must be really hard, but of relevance for this thread the Dad was more of a disciplinarian when he was about.

[Al Bundy]

1 hour ago, sibon said:

I’m not sure why you want to time travel back to the 70s. Is it because you’d have more latitude to beat your kid?

 

Your answer shows one of the problems with corporal punishment. You are teaching him that violence is the way to resolve problems. That’s why he tries to hit you back.

 

I suggest that you enrol in some parenting classes, or at least buy a book to help you to work out other ways of sorting your lad’s poor behaviour out.

 

I’ll leave you with two pieces of advice:

 

1. Positive reinforcement of good behaviour is more effective than punishment of bad behaviour.

 

2. Hitting anyone is wrong.

I am no expert but if there are...

 

1, are assaults on teachers higher or lower than they were 40 years ago?

 

2, are children better behaved now or less than 40 years ago?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

You are trolling, you are persistently and deliberately misquoting me to further your trolling, I actually said :

Once again:

 

1 hour ago, Hecate said:

I know what you said.  Quoting and requoting it - and ignoring the posts in which I responded to your dictionary definition of 'slap' - isn't going to detract from the fact that you said that you hit your child as a form of discipline,

You could try adding some colour to that bold and italics the next time you requote your post, but that won't change what you said either.

 

6 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

Personally I would not be so up front criticising others parenting if one knows very little about it. And that is not being as  critical as it sounds, parenting is even more difficult than I thought it would be before I had a child.

I'm not offering you a ten-step plan about how to deal with a difficult child; I'm saying that hitting a child is a bad thing, and I clearly don't need to be a parent to know that.

 

Do you need to be a virologist, immunologist, epidemiologist or medic to pontificate for three years about the pandemic?

 

[Chekhov]

1 hour ago, Chekhov said:

These people will make that mistake, because for these virtue signalling lefties nothing is too extreme. They  are quite happy to ban me from videoing my own child racing, and after he won his first ever Fly race (and I was unable to record anything about it) I will NEVER forgive them for it. 

But what is even more significant, most of those on here being critical of me are the same ones who were up in arms over my assertion I should be able to record the achievements of my child, and they haven't got any kids themselves.

Actually @Al Bundy, I think there is a more succinct answer. In everything from Covid, to Nett Zero, to banning parents from filming their own kids, one word covers what these virtue signalling PC types lack, and that word is proportionality.

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

Actually @Al Bundy, I think there is a more succinct answer. In everything from Covid, to Nett Zero, to banning parents from filming their own kids, one word covers what these virtue signalling PC types lack, and that word is proportionality.

Says the bloke who's spent three years wanging on about the life-changing horrors of being unable to go swimming for a few months, predicts that most things will be banned at some point in the near future, thinks that people will have to sign a disclaimer before having sex, and apparently thought that the 'world caved in' when his poor kid said he felt sick and so couldn't compete in a swimming event.