Who Benefits From The War In Ukraine?

[RollingJ]

18 minutes ago, L00b said:

Looking at replies so far, the war certainly seems to benefit conspiracy theorists à la Russell Brand, George Galloway and assorted other ‘influencers’ 🙄

 

I know this is Sheffield Forum and Sheffield is generally pink-to-red in political terms, but…

 

…the tankies in here! My eyes, my eyes! 😂

Sorry I laughed, @L00b- but you are correct in everything you say above.

[geared]

27 minutes ago, altus said:

Putin's border with NATO doubled yesterday precisely because he invaded Ukraine.

 

NATO and the EU haven't been asking former Soviet block countries to join them. Those countries have been the ones asking to join. You need to ask yourself why they would want to align themselves with the west rather than Putin's Russia.

 

Countries that had long kept themselves out of NATO.

 

If Putin was angry about Nato expansion, he's scored a wonderful own goal by pushing several more into joining and reminding the existing members how important the alliance is.

 

Nato hasn't been this relevant for a very long time, all thanks to him. 

[KP Nuts]

2 hours ago, cressida said:

At the moment the answer appears to be no-one,  certainly not the Ukrainians,  and I'm uncertain about what Macron and Ursula can achieve in China.

The good old USA. Embarrasses Russia, ties them down in a war of attrition, depletes their forces, removes Europes dependence on Russian energy, turns most of the world against Russia, uses up the USA's old stock of weapons and ammo and doesn't put their own forces or equipment at risk.

And China of course, turns Russia into a subservient ally whereas previously they were viewed as more or less equals there has now been a shift in power. 

[El Cid]

Russia is the world's third largest oil producer behind the United States and Saudi. The price of crude oil increased massively when the war started.

The price of oil went up again this week, so the price of petrol will stay high.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, cressida said:

 

"But people should also look at the reasons that Russia has invaded Ukraine....there are always two sides to a story some would say that they have a good case for war"

 

I agree with The Daddy on this,  a minority of Russians were being harassed  in the Ukraine and from there everything kicked off.

Quite true but, those Russians were not living peacefully in Ukraine.  They decided that it was their bit of land and ruled it,  so Ukraine had to attack them in the same way that any other country would.

Do you think we would allow a large number of Russians to come and take over Cornwall or Devon and behave as though it was theirs?

It was actually a small invasion on the sly.

[Kidorry]

4 hours ago, cressida said:

 

"But people should also look at the reasons that Russia has invaded Ukraine....there are always two sides to a story some would say that they have a good case for war"

 

I agree with The Daddy on this,  a minority of Russians were being harassed  in the Ukraine and from there everything kicked off.

Please explain to me how Russia invaded Ukraine, when they were already  the overriding military force in Crimea.

[cressida]

The thread title is who benefits from the invasion of Ukraine

[The_DADDY]

7 minutes ago, cressida said:

The thread title is who benefits from the invasion of Ukraine

The industrial military complex and Ukrainian 'officials' seem to be two of the biggest beneficiaries of the war. 

 

[Jack Grey]

1 hour ago, The_DADDY said:

The industrial military complex and Ukrainian 'officials' seem to be two of the biggest beneficiaries of the war. 

 

Yeah i wouldnt be surprised to see Zelenskyy on a superyacht soon

 

Hes been given over £100bn so far

[Axel]

 

Blackrock Investments.....

 

Zelensky has recently signed  a deal with Blackrock for the rebuild...

 

"Zelensky estimated that the total cost of rebuilding Ukraine would exceed $1 trillion."

 

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Zelensky and Fink first met virtually in September, where plans for BlackRock's participation in postwar reconstruction efforts were sketched out. BlackRock specialists are set to play a key advisory role in Ukraine's economy. The Ukraine president's website stated, "The BlackRock team has been working for several months on a project to advise the Ukrainian government on how to structure the country’s reconstruction funds.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/zelensky-blackrock-reconstruction-world-economic-forum