Delbow Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Or do you agree with Diane Abbott?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 They are part of the Human Race, as are any claimants of ancestry to any origin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 They experience discrimination. Not a fan of Diane Abbott but believe the reaction to her comments were over the top. She has said much worse things in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, crookesey said: They are part of the Human Race, as are any claimants of ancestry to any origin. Evasion attempt number 1. Do they experience racism due to being Irish and/or Travellers? 6 minutes ago, Axe said: They experience discrimination. Is it racial discrimination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Delbow said: Evasion attempt number 1. Do they experience racism due to being Irish and/or Travellers? who cares its all the same if you discriminate, black, white, yellow, catholic, muslim, fat, thin , gay , they what ever ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Delbow said: Evasion attempt number 1. Do they experience racism due to being Irish and/or Travellers? Is it racial discrimination? What am I evading, DA is a fool? If you’re interested why not track some down and ask them? I’m part Irish but don’t feel qualified to answer. Edited April 27, 2023 by crookesey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Delbow said: Or do you agree with Diane Abbott?. Do Irish And Traveller People Experience Racism? Probably, somewhere. If you mean Do Irish And Traveller People Experience Racism in this country? I don't know but I do know that some people dislike travellers because of their conduct not just because they are travellers. 1 minute ago, crookesey said: What am I evading, DA is a fool? If you’re interested why not track some down and ask them? I’m part Irish but don’t feel qualified to answer. Ditto. In fact my Irish relatives were travellers. When I mentioned this at school (we were doing a family tree thing if memory serves) I got a fair amount of stick for a few years. I wouldn't necessarily class that as Racism though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Careful lads and lasses. Our vegan friend will be along to issue death threats to you if you slag off the travelling folk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, HeHasRisen said: Careful lads and lasses. Our vegan friend will be along to issue death threats to you if you slag off the travelling folk. Who’s slagging them off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 The reason I'm interested is that some people deny that Jewishness is a race. They will point out that there are white Jews and Black Jews, European Jews and African Jews, and say 'well how can it be a race then?'. I disagree with that, partly because if a group of people are perceived as a race and persecuted or discriminated against on that basis, then that is effectively racism. So then the same should apply to Irish people and Travellers, even though you could argue that they are an ethnicity rather than a race. I'm also interested in it because there are lots of people up in arms about what Diane Abbott has said (rightly, imo) but who are at best tolerant of anti-Irish and anti-Traveller racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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