The Heritage Party

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, ECCOnoob said:

I'm curious how? Both my mother and father paid tax on their private pensions and they certainly didn't have anything near millionaire level funds.  

What tax advantage or scheme did you reap the benefit of up to this point?

The pension tax break is forecast to cost £2.75 billion over the next five years, as needed to boost economic growth by easing labour shortages.

 

https://www.theprivateoffice.com/insights/massive-pensions-giveaway-hunts-growth-budget#:~:text=What has happened%3F,abolished completely in April 2024.

 

This change does not affect my 96 year old relative, he was always below the personal allowance, but with inflation increases to the state pension, he is now just above it.

Edited April 29, 2023 by El Cid

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Hecate said:

That, my friends, is what being thoroughly ensnared in ideology looks like. 

 

How anyone can look at the corruption, cronyism and rank fetidness of the Tories, especially after Johnson and Truss and now this slick banker, and say that Starmer's attempts to make Labour electable again is equivalent is utterly beyond me. 

 

Corbyn's gone, thank all the gods, and Labour, though far from perfect, might actually stand a chance again.

What a load of complete rubbish.

You have the view of the present Labour party that Starmer & Co want you to hold.

You've fell for all the soft soap that they dish out to Labour supporters, trying to convince them that they are true Labour with your ideals at heart.

 

Sorry to disappoint you but Starmer is a Tory in Labour clothing.

He doesn't want to end privatisation as Corbyn did,  and he claimed he did at the time,  He wants to carry on with the privatisation until nothing belongs to the state.

He's going to continue the process that Blair started when he began farming out bits of NHS  work to private medical providers.

He is taking money from private healthcare providers (United Health)  and so is his shadow health secretary Wes Streeting, along with Streetings no 2, Dr Rosina Allin-Khan, who's  still practising ,

along with Yvette Cooper, who tries to convince she's as Labour as Labour can get, Dan Jarvis , Lucy Powell and Jeff Smith.

United Health's former CEO was Simon Stevens, the bloke the Tories used to push through health reforms (meaning more privatisation).

They are all in the same boat together and they are even rowing the same way so, whether you vote Tory or Labour, doesn't really matter, the main policies will be the same.

It's easy to get hoodwinked when you are listening to the professionals and they are all professional at conning us these days.

Whether you liked Corbyn or not, he was a decent straightforward Old Labour man and, he rightly, didn't believe in privatisation.

 

 

And you talk of ideology.  just believe that corruption is rife both sides of the house.  It would seem that quite a lot is beyond you. Check the map below from everydoctor and ask them.

 

https://www.everydoctor.org.uk/map-of-nhs-privatisation

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Anna B said:

That doesn't alter the fact that both parties are now virtually the same so what's the point of voting? 

Democracy is a sham for the gullible who think their vote makes a difference.

Very true but most voters don't realise how much of a sameness they are.

[Mister Gee]

On 27/04/2023 at 16:56, HeHasRisen said:

Oh my. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/heritagepartyuk

 

 

Indeed.

[El Cid]

32 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Sorry to disappoint you but Starmer is a Tory in Labour clothing.

He doesn't want to end privatisation as Corbyn did,  and he claimed he did at the time,  He wants to carry on with the privatisation until nothing belongs to the state.

 

They are all in the same boat together and they are even rowing the same way so, whether you vote Tory or Labour, doesn't really matter, the main policies will be the same.

The Tories push for privatisation, but it's clear for all to see that the railway privatisation has failed.

Whether anything can be changed in the energy sector is still to be worked out, but there is still zero competition.

Many voters are no longer loyal to Labour or Conservative, but will decide on election day.

[Guest]

Just now, El Cid said:

The Tories push for privatisation, but it's clear for all to see that the railway privatisation has failed.

Whether anything can be changed in the energy sector is still to be worked out, but there is still zero competition.

Many voters are no longer loyal to Labour or Conservative, but will decide on election day.

True   It would be nice if there was a real choice when deciding.

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

What a load of complete rubbish.

You have the view of the present Labour party that Starmer & Co want you to hold.

You've fell for all the soft soap that they dish out to Labour supporters, trying to convince them that they are true Labour with your ideals at heart.

 

Sorry to disappoint you but Starmer is a Tory in Labour clothing.

He doesn't want to end privatisation as Corbyn did,  and he claimed he did at the time,  He wants to carry on with the privatisation until nothing belongs to the state.

He's going to continue the process that Blair started when he began farming out bits of NHS  work to private medical providers.

He is taking money from private healthcare providers (United Health)  and so is his shadow health secretary Wes Streeting, along with Streetings no 2, Dr Rosina Allin-Khan, who's  still practising ,

along with Yvette Cooper, who tries to convince she's as Labour as Labour can get, Dan Jarvis , Lucy Powell and Jeff Smith.

United Health's former CEO was Simon Stevens, the bloke the Tories used to push through health reforms (meaning more privatisation).

They are all in the same boat together and they are even rowing the same way so, whether you vote Tory or Labour, doesn't really matter, the main policies will be the same.

It's easy to get hoodwinked when you are listening to the professionals and they are all professional at conning us these days.

Whether you liked Corbyn or not, he was a decent straightforward Old Labour man and, he rightly, didn't believe in privatisation.

 

 

And you talk of ideology.  just believe that corruption is rife both sides of the house.  It would seem that quite a lot is beyond you. Check the map below from everydoctor and ask them.

 

https://www.everydoctor.org.uk/map-of-nhs-privatisation

People simply don't realise how much of the NHS is now in private hands. Not only that, but these private companies see the NHS as a cash cow and regularly rip them off with ridiculous pricing structures. They see to it that there is little in the way of competition so they have the NHS over a barrel and can charge what they want.

The government may brag about its increased funding for the NHS, but this is going straight to the privatised companies, (often with government connections) which the NHS has no choice but to use, and who charge ever increasing amounts for their services.  

[Longcol]

33 minutes ago, Anna B said:

People simply don't realise how much of the NHS is now in private hands. Not only that, but these private companies see the NHS as a cash cow and regularly rip them off with ridiculous pricing structures. They see to it that there is little in the way of competition so they have the NHS over a barrel and can charge what they want.

The government may brag about its increased funding for the NHS, but this is going straight to the privatised companies, (often with government connections) which the NHS has no choice but to use, and who charge ever increasing amounts for their services.  

So how much is?

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, Longcol said:

So how much is?

A hell of a lot

https://www.everydoctor.org.uk/map-of-nhs-privatisation

[fools]

1 minute ago, Organgrinder said:

A hell of a lot

https://www.everydoctor.org.uk/map-of-nhs-privatisation

have you bought a hot water bottle cover yet