trastrick Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 18/05/2023 at 11:16, HumbleNarrator said: It is simply "automation" which is nothing new, it's just getting more advanced that's all. Calling it "artificial intelligence" is silly hyperbole. Unless AI could figure out a way to get its own government environmental permits to build its own factories, and mining for the necessary resources to produce AI machines, and get enough energy from the grid to power it all, it will never be anything more than a labor saving device. All the rest is just hyperbole from the usual suspects! Folks have been against "automation" since the start of the Industrial Revolution. Especially the Unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Programme on ITV on Thursday 8.30pm: 'A.I. What you need to know. - the promise and the perils.' Might be interesting. Edited May 24, 2023 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Anna B said: Programme on ITV on Thursday 8.30pm: 'A.I. What you need to know. - the promise and the perils.' Might be interesting. Right on cue! Beware the renegade coffee maker, The subversive microwave oven! AI's 'severe risks the greatest threat UK schools have ever faced' "The Government is responding too slowly to the dangers of artificial intelligence, which poses the greatest threat to education, according to head teachers. "A group of leaders from some of the country’s top schools have issued a letter warning of the “very real and present hazards and dangers” being presented by the technology". https://www.gbnews.com/news/ai-news-tech-artificial-intelligence-schools-children-education-warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Any kind of intelligence at all would be a shock these days. We don't need it in machines but it would be useful if we could instil it in humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, trastrick said: Right on cue! Beware the renegade coffee maker, The subversive microwave oven! AI's 'severe risks the greatest threat UK schools have ever faced' "The Government is responding too slowly to the dangers of artificial intelligence, which poses the greatest threat to education, according to head teachers. "A group of leaders from some of the country’s top schools have issued a letter warning of the “very real and present hazards and dangers” being presented by the technology". https://www.gbnews.com/news/ai-news-tech-artificial-intelligence-schools-children-education-warning Who knows? A relative who is a teacher in Australia says AI is a problem as the kids are using AI to write their essays for them, and as they can make them to write in a certain style and for a certain age group or grade, it's hard to tell the difference. Actually I'm just impressed they know how to do it... However Stephen Hawking said the future would belong to the robots and AI, which is rather worrying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Anna B said: Who knows? A relative who is a teacher in Australia says AI is a problem as the kids are using AI to write their essays for them, and as they can make them to write in a certain style and for a certain age group or grade, it's hard to tell the difference. Actually I'm just impressed they know how to do it... However Stephen Hawking said the future would belong to the robots and AI, which is rather worrying... Don't blame technology for the human condition. When phones first became available there were the usual "heavy breathers" making crank and obscene phone calls. Likewise guns, knives cars and hammers are harmless on their own! Some folks use a car to visit grandma, others use it to mow down pedestrians. Technology is benign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 18/05/2023 at 15:16, HumbleNarrator said: It is simply "automation" which is nothing new, it's just getting more advanced that's all. Calling it "artificial intelligence" is silly hyperbole. I don't think you've quite got this. It's so much more than 'automation.' These things can learn at an exponential rate, create and design. In fact they are starting to do all the things that people said they wouldn't be able to do. The kind of things that's supposed to set the human race apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Anna B said: I don't think you've quite got this. It's so much more than 'automation.' These things can learn at an exponential rate, create and design. In fact they are starting to do all the things that people said they wouldn't be able to do. The kind of things that's supposed to set the human race apart. Under all current laws of physics, there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine. The second law of thermodynamics applies here. No machine can ever approach the efficiency of a human. Can a machine move the couch to see if the plug has come loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, trastrick said: No machine can ever approach the efficiency of a human. In what respect? There are many instances where "machines" have already done so. It would count the people in a vast image of a crowd way faster and more accurately than any human can... ...and is already proving better at X-Ray analysis and resultant early cancer diagnoses than humans can muster. 7 minutes ago, trastrick said: Can a machine move the couch to see if the plug has come loose? Not yet, but it can concoct some ****-and-bull storey to get you to do it. In your case, a few well placed simple keywords like "check plug for socialist activity" or "woke influence"... ...can only imagine the efficiency! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Hmmm... If I might (for once) ask a (few) serious question(s) here... This AI malarkey has been around for donkey's years - it's just an advanced form of automation - but why has it just 'exploded' in the last few months? What has caused all this recent hype that it's about to take over the World? Has some 'unknown' corporation got a vested interest in it, and they've decided the time is now right to promote it as the bee's knees... ... or is it just because it's been made available to the average 'man on the street person on the keyboard' and their limited intelligence has been blown away by the term 'Artificial Intelligence' and the fact that the dumbest of the dumb are now able to do things that much more talented people have been achieving for years through their own efforts? But AI is not some 'super being/creature' from a science fiction novel that knows all there is to know and is willing to tell anyone the meaning of life providing they ask it the right question. AI can obviously make decisions quicker than humans, but it only 'knows' what humans have previously 'told it', and 'learns' and makes it's 'decisions' based on 'trial and error', albeit MANY 'trial and errors'. Please tell me if this is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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