Police Letting Anti Social Types Get Away With Stuff.

[El Cid]

6 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

A new video of the "chase":
 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2023/may/24/cctv-footage-shows-people-on-e-bike-followed-by-police-van-in-cardiff-video

Is the video in slow motion, the police van seems to be way behind?

[Al Bundy]

Always someone else's fault.

 

I am shocked I tell you....

 

🙄

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/26/cardiff-riots-uk-conservative-government-created-poor-conditions-mark-drakeford-welsh-first-minister

[PRESLEY]

6 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Always someone else's fault.

 

I am shocked I tell you....

 

🙄

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/26/cardiff-riots-uk-conservative-government-created-poor-conditions-mark-drakeford-welsh-first-minister

Thatcher started the ball rolling in 1979.

[BigPP]

3 hours ago, El Cid said:

Is the video in slow motion, the police van seems to be way behind?

I've timed it at16 seconds behind. 

[hackey lad]

4 hours ago, PRESLEY said:

Thatcher started the ball rolling in 1979.

Oh my Lord 

[Longcol]

Kinda worried about the attitude of the community where the lads came from.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65726829

 

"Following the vigil, Harvey Evans's great-uncle, John O'Driscoll, said he accepted Monday's riot was wrong but said it was borne of frustration.

 

Mr O'Driscoll said: "They were just young boys. Everyone rides bikes and scooters around here.

"Yes, we find them annoying, but that's just what they do.

 

"But as soon as those coppers saw they had no helmets they should've stopped."

 

So parents shouldn't take responsibility for their kids, and a fail safe way to avoid being persued by the police on an e-bike (no matter the cause) is not to wear a helmet.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Longcol

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Kinda worried about the attitude of the community where the lads came from.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65726829

 

"Following the vigil, Harvey Evans's great-uncle, John O'Driscoll, said he accepted Monday's riot was wrong but said it was borne of frustration.

 

Mr O'Driscoll said: "They were just young boys. Everyone rides bikes and scooters around here.

"Yes, we find them annoying, but that's just what they do.

 

"But as soon as those coppers saw they had no helmets they should've stopped."

 

So parents shouldn't take responsibility for their kids, and a fail safe way to avoid being persued by the police on an e-bike (no matter the cause) is not to wear a helmet.

Scrubbers . 

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

 

Mr O'Driscoll said: "They were just young boys. Everyone rides bikes and scooters around here.

"Yes, we find them annoying, but that's just what they do.

I used to ride cycles as a boy too. Except now people are given xxx more in benefits or they steal electric bikes and they go faster.

If you were brave, top speed was down one of many steep hills, not racing in traffic.

[Longcol]

7 minutes ago, El Cid said:

I used to ride cycles as a boy too. Except now people are given xxx more in benefits or they steal electric bikes and they go faster.

If you were brave, top speed was down one of many steep hills, not racing in traffic.

The Sur Ron bikes thay were riding

 

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/cardiff-bike-crash-latest-nine-132201056.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF9sCtzo_RExPxhelUP3ZwgkqgR7Ktd750oYXd9hEcmpuFkEpjLp09Ed0F9v8Qql_L5qO8o7nZiyngmvzNoy7Nk5FIWwqUh8LmoQcjVjdRsadCIjtT4WLxBhTfxQ0yzQ5nl3PJ2G3376ahWhqOxLBVewjI1LvRMVNl8YqvBQTIc6

 

go a damn site faster on the flat than the push bikes we had as kids.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=sur+ron+e-bike+top+speed&sxsrf=APwXEdcieAmC_44C2-UVRmO5K0GUWIRvMQ%3A1685142706752&ei=sjxxZKPOLfOfkdUP4-SI6A4&oq=sur+ron+e-bik+top+speed&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQARgAMgYIABAHEB4yCAgAEAgQHhANMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMggIABCKBRCGAzoKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzoKCAAQigUQsAMQQzoHCCMQigUQJzoICAAQCBAHEB46CQgAEAgQHhDxBEoECEEYAFCqC1joL2ChUmgBcAF4AIABT4gBwAOSAQE2mAEAoAEBwAEByAEK&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

[Guest]

59 minutes ago, Longcol said:

The Sur Ron bikes thay were riding

 

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/cardiff-bike-crash-latest-nine-132201056.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF9sCtzo_RExPxhelUP3ZwgkqgR7Ktd750oYXd9hEcmpuFkEpjLp09Ed0F9v8Qql_L5qO8o7nZiyngmvzNoy7Nk5FIWwqUh8LmoQcjVjdRsadCIjtT4WLxBhTfxQ0yzQ5nl3PJ2G3376ahWhqOxLBVewjI1LvRMVNl8YqvBQTIc6

 

go a damn site faster on the flat than the push bikes we had as kids.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=sur+ron+e-bike+top+speed&sxsrf=APwXEdcieAmC_44C2-UVRmO5K0GUWIRvMQ%3A1685142706752&ei=sjxxZKPOLfOfkdUP4-SI6A4&oq=sur+ron+e-bik+top+speed&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQARgAMgYIABAHEB4yCAgAEAgQHhANMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMggIABCKBRCGAzoKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzoKCAAQigUQsAMQQzoHCCMQigUQJzoICAAQCBAHEB46CQgAEAgQHhDxBEoECEEYAFCqC1joL2ChUmgBcAF4AIABT4gBwAOSAQE2mAEAoAEBwAEByAEK&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

So, we all know what the problems are but, who knows the answers?

Respect for others and respect for law & order has been waning rapidly for years but neither governments, councils or police forces seem able to come up with the ability to do what they get paid for.

I would ignore the remark by the kids great uncle as, being family, you could expect him to be prejudiced in the matter - I would have been surprised if the families, in their loss,  were not.

Makes me wonder about the subject of Law & Order, regarding youth misbehaviour etc.  in similar countries in Europe.  Are we on our own and if so, why?

Edited May 27, 2023 by Organgrinder