cressida Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Hello Tony🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 43 minutes ago, Tony said: Is it because; 1: The BBC is a publicly owned and funded organisation. 2. There were decades of known cover up from top to bottom. and 3: Those titillating of-their-time comedy shows weren't supposed to be documentaries. ? (Hello again ) 1. So were lots of other institutions with a culture of similar behaviour. 2. There are things worse than just cover-ups. There is exactly the same behaviour blatantly happening right in view but seemingly, if it involves some lewd but popular comedian or some god like pop star or some 'character' down the local pub its just played down. 3. No, they weren't supposed to to be documentaries but they were a very clear reflection of exactly what was happening in in the real world across a wide section of society. So I ask again, why just criticism at the BBC. Why not all the other aspects where the exact same sort of behaviour was blatantly happening right in the view of everyone but people in those circumstances seem to make excuses, accept and play down. Why the selective outrage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 How about a more recent and prime example of selective outrage that our fickle society does. Right now there's been the massive controversy over the Paris Olympics opening ceremony. Lots of wails and crying about some painted model jigging about in their underpants and "oh won't someone think of the children" being screamed. And yet, those very same publications, merely a few days later were posting whole articles simply highlighting the well endowed package of a young French diver. Thousands of articles and posts. Photographs, slowed down videos, zoomed in shots, attention grabbing titles, all there for everyone to see. All reposted, clickbaited and repeatedly highlighted to make sure everyone gets a good look. Didn't hear many people screaming "oh, won't somebody think of the children" about that. So. Two blokes in their pants and media focus solely on their tackle. Yet one seemingly interesting legitimate news the other one arrgh! outrage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak4 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Collective outrage seems to be a bit of a thing these days, particularly when it can be used for political aims; those who chose to do so, know very well how easy it is to manipulate the public by playing to their prejudices. Brought over from a different thread with the attribution of the author “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.” QuoteFancy, but many other sources — Robert A. Heinlein The previous couple of posts refer to The BBC and the Olympics opening ceremony; It's a shame that the organisers didn't respond with the actual explanation, though I believe it was even available in writing at the time. Have a read of the articles and see if you can spot any familiar names. DefundtheBBC: the anatomy of a social media campaign The Conversation The Brexiteers Behind the Defund The BBC Campaign New European vis archive.is Some are angry about the "anti-Christian depiction of the last supper" at the Olympic Opening ceremony. Threadreader link to a Twitter post Some are angry about the "anti-Christian depiction of the last supper" at the Olympic Opening ceremony. (@elonmusk and @realDonaldTrump among others) A Dutch art historian explains it's not the last supper but a Dutch painting of the Olympic gods. Olympics opening ceremony tableau sparks controversy among Christian community Today The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, confirmed that Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” was not his inspiration for the performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horribleblob Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 52 minutes ago, peak4 said: Collective outrage seems to be a bit of a thing these days, particularly when it can be used for political aims; those who chose to do so, know very well how easy it is to manipulate the public by playing to their prejudices. Brought over from a different thread with the attribution of the author “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.” QuoteFancy, but many other sources — Robert A. Heinlein The previous couple of posts refer to The BBC and the Olympics opening ceremony; It's a shame that the organisers didn't respond with the actual explanation, though I believe it was even available in writing at the time. Have a read of the articles and see if you can spot any familiar names. DefundtheBBC: the anatomy of a social media campaign The Conversation The Brexiteers Behind the Defund The BBC Campaign New European vis archive.is Some are angry about the "anti-Christian depiction of the last supper" at the Olympic Opening ceremony. Threadreader link to a Twitter post Some are angry about the "anti-Christian depiction of the last supper" at the Olympic Opening ceremony. (@elonmusk and @realDonaldTrump among others) A Dutch art historian explains it's not the last supper but a Dutch painting of the Olympic gods. Olympics opening ceremony tableau sparks controversy among Christian community Today The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, confirmed that Leonardo da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” was not his inspiration for the performance. Very interesting. A fair bit of reading, but thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak4 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 3 minutes ago, horribleblob said: Very interesting. A fair bit of reading, but thanks for that. Sadly I have a suspicion that those arguably who to need to read, and more importantly fully understand, the implications of the content are those least likely to open those links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, peak4 said: Sadly I have a suspicion that those arguably who to need to read, and more importantly fully understand, the implications of the content are those least likely to open those links. How incredibly condescending. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) On 10/08/2024 at 11:31, ECCOnoob said: ... So I ask again, why just criticism at the BBC. Because this is a thread about one of the most famous and best paid faces at the BBC. There are other threads somewhere about members of the police, the Catholic Church, Parliament, the armed forces, medical and teaching professions, etc who have similar predilections, although perhaps without the public profile or pay packet from you and me. If there is some other group that you think should have more attention paid to it you could start a thread and get the discussion going. Or how about a topic on criminal justice and whether restitution or rehabilitation are more suitable outcomes than learning the craft of crime in Armley. Be warned though, you'll get the the hang 'em, flog 'em and chuck away the key responses. However, that doesn't mean it's a futile topic - just like this one about a seemingly endless stream of nonces at the BBC, it's useful to exchange thoughts and ideas for all our betterment. There's a lot to be said for listening. Edited August 11 by Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 On 10/08/2024 at 10:35, Tony said: Is it because; 1: The BBC is a publicly owned and funded organisation. 2. There were decades of known cover up from top to bottom. and 3: Those titillating of-their-time comedy shows weren't supposed to be documentaries. ? (Hello again ) Hiya Tony 👋 Long-time no see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Tony said: Because this is a thread about one of the most famous and best paid faces at the BBC. There are other threads somewhere about members of the police, the Catholic Church, Parliament, the armed forces, medical and teaching professions, etc who have similar predilections, although perhaps without the public profile or pay packet from you and me. If there is some other group that you think should have more attention paid to it you could start a thread and get the discussion going. Or how about a topic on criminal justice and whether restitution or rehabilitation are more suitable outcomes than learning the craft of crime in Armley. Be warned though, you'll get the the hang 'em, flog 'em and chuck away the key responses. However, that doesn't mean it's a futile topic - just like this one about a seemingly endless stream of nonces at the BBC, it's useful to exchange thoughts and ideas for all our betterment. There's a lot to be said for listening. The post I was specifically responding to was someone complaining adult soap stars being dressed up in school uniform. The point I was making is that there was lots of other circumstances where grown adults are portraying school kids. Lots of other circumstances where fresh young girls are happily paraded around, photographed, sung about, letched over and chased around for titillation, comedic effect and marketing purposes which seems perfectly accepted by society. Hence why I brought up the subject of selective outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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