Fargate Redevelopment

[Baron99]

Well  take a walk down Fargate & there is so much spray paint of markings on the pavement with various numbers in different colours every few feet, that it appears that everything that needs to be discovered, needs digging up; needs not to be not dug up; not needs to be disturbed has been identified? 

 

This lot should come in handy, should SCC ever think about parking a load of shippimg containers for whatever reason on Fargate in the future & are needing an underground power supply?

Edited August 27, 2023 by Baron99

[Mkapaka]

On 25/08/2023 at 17:56, Anna B said:

I don't know who is in charge of commissioning the workmen to do this sort of job, but they need to include penalty clauses for works going over the time limit. Everything moves at a snails pace in Sheffield.

We're trying to compete globally with places like China where this sort of thing can be done virtually overnight. They really must move quicker. 

Penalty clauses aren’t enforceable in uk construction contracts.

[Anna B]

27 minutes ago, Mkapaka said:

Penalty clauses aren’t enforceable in uk construction contracts.

Well maybe they should be. That's something the Government could do, but of course that would affect their rich friends. 

[Bargepole23]

52 minutes ago, Mkapaka said:

Penalty clauses aren’t enforceable in uk construction contracts.

NEC 3 contracts, which are very common in engineering construction projects, have a delay damages penalty clause as an option. Pretty sure that gets imposed.

[Mkapaka]

Penalty clauses could allow undue punishment and unjust enrichment. That’s why they aren’t enforceable. 

 

you would just need a liquidated damages clause which most contracts of this nature will include.

 

I’d be surprised if there wasn’t one in place in this instance. 

[Mkapaka]

41 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

NEC 3 contracts, which are very common in engineering construction projects, have a delay damages penalty clause as an option. Pretty sure that gets imposed.

There’s no such thing as a “delay damages penalty clause”.

 

they are either delay damages (liquidated damages) or penalty clauses - you won’t find any penalty clauses in the NEC form because penalty clauses are not enforceable in uk law. You will however find a provision for LD’s in the NEC.

[hackey lad]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Well maybe they should be. That's something the Government could do, but of course that would affect their rich friends. 

Just for once , leave the government out of it and point the finger in the right direction. Please.

[Bargepole23]

5 hours ago, Mkapaka said:

There’s no such thing as a “delay damages penalty clause”.

 

they are either delay damages (liquidated damages) or penalty clauses - you won’t find any penalty clauses in the NEC form because penalty clauses are not enforceable in uk law. You will however find a provision for LD’s in the NEC.

OK. There's a delay damages clause which can be added to an NEC3 contract which compensates the non breaching party rather than imposing a penalty on the breaching party. Similar outcome.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Just for once , leave the government out of it and point the finger in the right direction. Please.

Anna said that because only the government can change the law.  Councils don't have the powers to do that.

Not a case of pointing fingers     -     especially when they are both equally useless.

 

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

Anna said that because only the government can change the law.  Councils don't have the powers to do that.

Not a case of pointing fingers     -     especially when they are both equally useless.

 

Anna said that for a cheap dig , nothing else .