top4718 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, PapaLazarou said: I think lots of us have made lots of allegations on this forum over recent months. From both sides. Accusing an organisation of deliberately misleading fans to lessen a financial risk to themselves is a bit different to a bit of name calling, you also claim "100% exactly that, no other reason" despite being given a valid and accurate reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Provide the link to prove this reason then, its quite simple. Edited July 27, 2023 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alextopman Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, top4718 said: Accusing an organisation of deliberately misleading fans to lessen a financial risk to themselves is a bit different to a bit of name calling, you also claim "100% exactly that, no other reason" despite being given a valid and accurate reason. What valid and accurate reason?. Why are they not taking debit card payments this time when they did the last time they did it?. No one has made any effort to answer that question. Edited July 27, 2023 by Alextopman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, HeHasRisen said: Provide the link to prove this reason then, its quite simple. If you think I'm going to trawl through thousands of pages of financial regulations just to satisfy a few pedants on here who are absolutely desperate to point score think again, I've explained the reasoning twice already, bear in mind also that some of these agreements will be confidential between the club and it's merchant service provider so finding your holy grail link won't be possible. I'm confident enough with where I've got this info from that to assume it's correct, I wonder if some will be so confident it's the club "ripping people off" if they were approached legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, top4718 said: If you think I'm going to trawl through thousands of pages of financial regulations just to satisfy a few pedants on here who are absolutely desperate to point score think again, I've explained the reasoning twice already, bear in mind also that some of these agreements will be confidential between the club and it's merchant service provider so finding your holy grail link won't be possible. I'm confident enough with where I've got this info from that to assume it's correct, I wonder if some will be so confident it's the club "ripping people off" if they were approached legally? OK so are you also going to claim that Wembley wont take debit and credit card payments for their multi-year tickets? https://www.clubwembley.com/membership/one-twenty How about the Irish Rugby federation? https://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/tickets/ten-year-tickets/ Worthing Fc? https://worthingfc.com/2023/04/limited-10-year-season-tickets-on-sale-now/ Oh, and Bath FC took debit card payments for their 10 year tickets. Funny that eh? https://www.surveyhero.com/c/patron10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: OK so are you also going to claim that Wembley wont take debit and credit card payments for their multi-year tickets? https://www.clubwembley.com/membership/one-twenty How about the Irish Rugby federation? https://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/tickets/ten-year-tickets/ Worthing Fc? https://worthingfc.com/2023/04/limited-10-year-season-tickets-on-sale-now/ Oh, and Bath FC took debit card payments for their 10 year tickets. Funny that eh? https://www.surveyhero.com/c/patron10 Not funny at all, like I said if the merchant service provider is happy for their clients to do it they let it happen, its negating risk, Chansiri has been under two (I think) financial embargoes so the risk is greater, it isn't a "one size fits all" scenario. The Worthing one also states its a fixed price so is a different scenario and doesn't state any payment options either. Edited July 27, 2023 by top4718 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alextopman Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, top4718 said: If you think I'm going to trawl through thousands of pages of financial regulations just to satisfy a few pedants on here who are absolutely desperate to point score think again, I've explained the reasoning twice already, bear in mind also that some of these agreements will be confidential between the club and it's merchant service provider so finding your holy grail link won't be possible. I'm confident enough with where I've got this info from that to assume it's correct, I wonder if some will be so confident it's the club "ripping people off" if they were approached legally? You must have seen the evidence somewhere but now you can't provide it. Loads have people have said Wednesday are ripping their fans of including Owls fans. Get em all grassed up don't just threaten it on here. Edited July 27, 2023 by Alextopman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in Crete Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, top4718 said: Not funny at all, like I said if the merchant service provider is happy for their clients to do it they let it happen, its negating risk, Chansiri has been under two (I think) financial embargoes so the risk is greater, it isn't a "one size fits all" scenario. The Worthing one also states its a fixed price so is a different scenario and doesn't state any payment options either. For goodness sake make your mind up. First you say it’s Thebes providers “rule” which you can’t be bothered to back up or rather have no first hand off.? Now you’re saying it’s mr chancers fault cos he’s too great a risk financially. Which one is it for your next starter for 10 please? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaLazarou Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) On 15/07/2023 at 22:03, top4718 said: Merchant service providers that work with major credit cards don't accept payments for services that aren't going to provided in a short space of time, card payments were not designed for that and financial regulators don't allow, sorry to supply the facts to dampen your excitement. Hang on. This is getting confusing now. I thought it was this reason ⬆️ Edited July 27, 2023 by PapaLazarou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prettytom Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, PapaLazarou said: This is getting confusing! I thought it was this reason ⬆️ You should be familiar with Top’s moving target version of evidence by now. I hesitate to recommend reading the covid thread, but there’s tons of it on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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