S35_2o21 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 21 hours ago, The_DADDY said: Hello this is 999… which pronoun do you require? Emergency operators are warned to ask callers how they want to be referred to rather than 'misgendering' them based on their voices Call-centre staff should also not use Sir or Madam, with one ambulance trust stating preferred pronouns should be sought even in emergencies so the experience is less stressful for trans patients. Others say birth sex is often irrelevant to care, so operators can use patients' self-identified gender. The policies can be revealed today in the second part of an investigation into the spread of contested gender ideology in the NHS. As the Daily Mail reported last week, hospital trusts are letting patients who only occasionally identify as women into female-only wards. Maternity staff also refer to 'birthing people' rather than women and mothers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12400921/Hello-999-pronoun-require-Emergency-operators-warned-ask-callers-want-referred-misgendering-based-voices.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=DailyMailUS%2Fmagazine%2FTop+Stories If this is true then I'm not sure about you but in an emergency Pronouns would be the least of my worries Your thoughts? It's interesting that the article only reports the feedback from the Ambulance Trusts that have this policy. Of the 9 English Ambulance Trusts, the article only quotes from responses from 2 of them. I wonder if the DM asked private providers the same question. Personally I think it's an appalling waste of money that the DM has requested this information. Presumably it used an FOI request to the trusts in questions. In terms of the hospital trusts and use of female only wards, it's interesting that the article hasn't identified these wards or the source of this information. The Policy Exchange is always relied upon to be 'outraged' about anything remotely progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, leviathan13 said: That's not a very inclusive attitude... Hmmm... Exactly! Wouldn't it be a bit racist insensitive to ask a non-Christian what their Christian name was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Exactly! Wouldn't it be a bit racist insensitive to ask a non-Christian what their Christian name was? I personally couldn't care less - I'm atheist and call it a Christian name - I just find it funny when the oh-so-inclusive left pick and choose when to be inclusive... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, leviathan13 said: I personally couldn't care less - I'm atheist and call it a Christian name - I just find it funny when the oh-so-inclusive left pick and choose when to be inclusive... Hmmm... It's an interesting point though! I'm sure there are many non-Christian religious people who WOULD be "offended" if they were asked what their Christian name was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattricia Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 17 hours ago, The_DADDY said: I can only speak for myself but I do love our Hackney. He's great and he loves me too. You can tell that by how many times he visits my profile 😁 Get his name right then ! It’s hackey not Hackney ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, pattricia said: Get his name right then ! It’s hackey not Hackney ! I'll do my best. No promises though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... It's an interesting point though! I'm sure there are many non-Christian religious people who WOULD be "offended" if they were asked what their Christian name was... Tough - they are in a nominally Christian country - by choice, so I personally see no reason why we should accommodate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... It's an interesting point though! I'm sure there are many non-Christian religious people who WOULD be "offended" if they were asked what their Christian name was... I feel that offence is a personal issue and, unless it's said with malice, I think people have bigger things to worry about. Would I be offended if asked what my Islamic or Jewish name is (were it such a thing)? Not really - I'd understand what they were on about and pay no mind to any potential ism or phobia. We live in a country still perceived as Christian - you have to expect that people will uphold those traditions and ways, no matter how out-dated someone may feel they are. As was mentioned in the link, even using 'first name' could cause offence, so how far do you take it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Exactly! Wouldn't it be a bit racist insensitive to ask a non-Christian what their Christian name was? so you are suggesting now that you aska person their religion before asking what their christian name is? Im not a christian but i woull certainly respond in the positive to someone asking me what my christian name is does that mean you arent allowed to ask a female what their surname is as it sounds like "sir" when said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 What a load of tosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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