Bus Timetable Changes 3 September 2023

[Resident]

30 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

As I understand it, some still don't meet Euro6 which is why there have been a number of re-allocations between OG-DO. Rotherham and Doncaster do not have Sheffield's CAZ zones, so the older vehicles that were hard to convert have been moved to DO for Rotherham/Doncaster use.

Wouldn't surprise me

 

[Guest busdriver1]

4 hours ago, Resident said:

Actually a good number of First's fleet didn't meet the Euro6 standards however it was far cheaper to have the emissions systems converted  than buy new buses. 

That said the conversions haven't gone smoothly by what I'm told, with a number of buses consistently going into limp mode because of the new emissions systems. 

Correct

4 hours ago, RollingJ said:

As I understand it, some still don't meet Euro6 which is why there have been a number of re-allocations between OG-DO. Rotherham and Doncaster do not have Sheffield's CAZ zones, so the older vehicles that were hard to convert have been moved to DO for Rotherham/Doncaster use.

All Rotherham services are now run from Sheffield.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, busdriver1 said:

Correct

All Rotherham services are now run from Sheffield.

I apologize - I forgot that, but presumably they use Euro6 compliant vehicles. I would amend my original post, but you can take this as that amendment.

 

I therefore presume those that they haven't been able to bring up to Euro6 are all at Doncaster, for Doncaster services.

[Guest busdriver1]

8 hours ago, RollingJ said:

I therefore presume those that they haven't been able to bring up to Euro6 are all at Doncaster, for Doncaster services.

That is right. To summarise: The Sheffield CAZ has directly caused an increase in emissions in Doncaster. Good innit?

[RollingJ]

No it ain't - but the whole Sheffield CAZ idea is crazy - just displaces pollution and traffic flows.

[Resident]

2 hours ago, RollingJ said:

No it ain't - but the whole Sheffield CAZ idea is crazy - just displaces pollution and traffic flows.

Despite the council's (and their mole on here, who definitely doesn't work for them at all) assertions, Meja said it.

[ads36]

6 hours ago, busdriver1 said:

That is right. To summarise: The Sheffield CAZ has directly caused an increase in emissions in Doncaster. Good innit?

sounds like Doncaster needs a clean air zone...

[Resident]

58 minutes ago, ads36 said:

sounds like Doncaster needs a clean air zone...

Well it's a city now so it probably won't be long

 

[Irene Swaine]

On 28/08/2023 at 16:59, Resident said:

Actually a good number of First's fleet didn't meet the Euro6 standards however it was far cheaper to have the emissions systems converted  than buy new buses. 

That said the conversions haven't gone smoothly by what I'm told, with a number of buses consistently going into limp mode because of the new emissions systems. 

When I was growing up, in the 1990s, the buses used to chuck out a whole load of smoke, both outside and inside the bus! It never did me any harm. I don't remember being asked if I want this euro 6/ULEZ nonsense. My answer would have been no.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, Irene Swaine said:

When I was growing up, in the 1990s, the buses used to chuck out a whole load of smoke, both outside and inside the bus! It never did me any harm. I don't remember being asked if I want this euro 6/ULEZ nonsense. My answer would have been no.

They - the authorities - don't need to ask you.