fools Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Delayed said: Because I don’t make things up to suit my viewpoint Yes those are called facts that's an arse about way of thinking, most peoples viewpoints are based on what they think are facts - if <1% of those crossing by boats were playing the system, nobody would be bothered 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, fools said: that's an arse about way of thinking, most peoples viewpoints are based on what they think are facts exactly. What they think are facts. Doesn’t necessarily make them facts. 3 minutes ago, fools said: - if <1% of those crossing by boats were playing the system, nobody would be bothered Yes but this is the point. You don’t know they are playing the system. You are just looking at the number arriving and saying that they can’t all be asylum seekers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Delayed said: exactly. What they think are facts. Doesn’t necessarily make them facts. Yes but this is the point. You don’t know they are playing the system. You are just looking at the number arriving and saying that they can’t all be asylum seekers. nope, I'm looking at the facts available to the general public, and forming an opinion based on them. Edited August 26, 2023 by fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, fools said: nope, I'm looking at the facts, and forming an opinion based on them. So what facts are you looking at which confirm to you that all small boat arrivals are playing the system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Delayed said: So what facts are you looking at which confirm to you that all small boat arrivals are playing the system? tiktok videos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, fools said: tiktok videos Oh come on! You’re seriously trying to argue that everyone entering via small boat is deceptive because a minority use TikTok or duped by TikTok adverts? Do you think the home office could get away with refusing asylum claims because of TikTok? behave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Delayed said: Do you think the home office could get away with refusing asylum claims because of TikTok? do they image the phone data, and check it's contents and movements, or just accept any old lie on a form. Edited August 26, 2023 by fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, fools said: do they image the phone data, and check it's contents and movements, or just accept any old lie on a form. How would phone data and movement data help the home office prove that someone whom is claiming to be homosexual is either a. Not homosexual and or b. Not at risk of being homosexual in their original country? Bear in mind that it’s not a factor whether someone has gone through other countries to claim asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Delayed said: How would phone data and movement data help the home office prove that someone whom is claiming to be homosexual is either a. Not homosexual and or b. Not at risk of being homosexual in their original country? Bear in mind that it’s not a factor whether someone has gone through other countries to claim asylum. played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, fools said: played Who’s likely to be played? the person that works with these people and given you a real life example of an asylum claim as above. or the person that watches TikTok videos and now thinks they know about the Asylum system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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