Mohamed Al Fayed: Former Harrods Owner Dies At 94

[hauxwell]

Henri Paul was over the drink drive limit, he had been drinking at home the night he was called back to work.  He was also caught on the security camera in the Ritz bar consuming two glasses of spirits while waiting for Dodi and Diana. Things could have been different if someone had asked him if he had been drinking before he got behind the wheel of the car?  The person who was responsible for the accident was the driver and the paparazzi who chased the car.

Fayed had to blame someone for the accident so why not Prince Philip instead of looking closer to home.  
 

[Anna B]

5 hours ago, crookesey said:

I recall the Panorama interview where Diana implied that there were ‘three people in her marriage’, she’d outlived her usefulness by providing two male children, she was obviously unaware of what royal marriages were all about.

She was young, genuinely in love, and very naive. 

She certainly didn't know about the men in grey suits who run the show.

[Guest ThaBoom]

6 minutes ago, Anna B said:

She was young, genuinely in love, and very naive. 

She certainly didn't know about the men in grey suits who run the show.

With who?

 

Not Dodi I'm sure- to the outside world that looked like 2 fingers to the Royals because of their view on Al Fayed/and Dodi being from Eygpt.

 

Think she was in love with some Pakistani heart surgeon- seems to have had a thing for ethnic persons with brown skin.

 

The marriage to Charles was a convenience back then. An arrangement by Royal family. 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by ThaBoom

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, hauxwell said:

Henri Paul was over the drink drive limit, he had been drinking at home the night he was called back to work.  He was also caught on the security camera in the Ritz bar consuming two glasses of spirits while waiting for Dodi and Diana. Things could have been different if someone had asked him if he had been drinking before he got behind the wheel of the car?  The person who was responsible for the accident was the driver and the paparazzi who chased the car.

Fayed had to blame someone for the accident so why not Prince Philip instead of looking closer to home.  
 

He was also on video before the accident behaving normally, squatting down to tie his shoelace, communicating precisely and clearly. With the amount of alcohol allegedly in his blood he would not have been able to perform any of those tasks and it would have been obvious he was drunk and not fit to drive anything, let alone a princess.

 

No mention of the blinding strobe light which was in the testimony of more than one witness.

[Anna B]

7 minutes ago, ThaBoom said:

With who?

 

Not Dodi I'm sure- to the outside world that looked like 2 fingers to the Royals because of their view on Al Fayed/and Dodi being from Eygpt.

 

Think she was in love with some Pakistani heart surgeon- seems to have had a thing for ethnic persons with brown skin.

 

The marriage to Charles was a convenience back then. An arrangement by Royal family. 

 

Young, naive, and in love with Charles. It might have been a marriage of convenience for Charles, but Diana desperately wanted the marriage to work. The full fairy tale. She really didn't know what she was getting  herself into.

It was only later she realised she was locked in a loveless marriage with rules all of its own. 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

He was also on video before the accident behaving normally, squatting down to tie his shoelace, communicating precisely and clearly. With the amount of alcohol allegedly in his blood he would not have been able to perform any of those tasks and it would have been obvious he was drunk and not fit to drive anything, let alone a princess.

Paul had combined alcohol with two prescription medications that explicitly warned were not to be taken with alcohol.  The testimony of the Ritz barman who served Paul shortly before he got into the car stated that Paul appeared drunk in both appearance and manner.

 

10 minutes ago, Anna B said:

No mention of the blinding strobe light which was in the testimony of more than one witness.

From the Paget Inquiry Report:

 

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... the primary basis for the ‘bright white flash’ in the Alma underpass stems from a French eyewitness, François Levistre, who claimed to have seen a bright light at the point of impact of the crash. This was in the rear view mirror of his car while he was driving through the underpass ahead of the Mercedes.

There were inconsistencies in François Levistre’s account that were in clear conflict with that of his fellow car occupant, his wife. The French authorities have discounted his version of events.

Technical work undertaken by the Operation Paget Senior Collision Investigator and by the United Kingdom Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) (also explained in detail in Chapter Seven), concluded that even if there had been a bright white flash inside the underpass it would have had no effect on the cause of the crash.

 

 

[Anna B]

4 hours ago, Hecate said:

That was a letter produced by Paul Burrell; the one to the solicitor suggested that Camilla was also going to be on the receiving end of similar treatment.  As we know, Diana was paranoid and vindictive (the point of the letter was to direct ire at Tiggy Legge-Bourke, who Diana incorrectly suspected of having an affair with Charles and of aborting their baby).  Camilla is, of course, still here.

 

Andanson committed suicide in the manner that he had talked about doing before his death, by pouring petrol on himself and lighting it with a cigar in a car in the woods. His wife testified that he was suicidal.  The claim you make there as fact was from a media interview by one fireman, who would not have been able to distinguish gun shot damage, let alone two distinct bullet wounds, in a charred corpse that was so badly burnt that DNA had to be used for identification.

 

Identified as belonging to Vietnamese plumber and nightwatchman Le Van Thanh who didn't come forward because he was an immigrant frightened of getting involved with the French police and the consequences for his resident status.

 

I don't know where you're getting your information from, Le Van Thanh is an eminent heart surgeon who has a hospital named after him in Vietnam(?) for his pioneering work.

 

Adanson's car was locked from the outside and the car keys found some distance away in the woods.

 

Diana was not paranoid, although she was spooked by the untimely death of her personal protection officer Barry Mannakee who she was alleged to have had an affair with. She was badly maligned in the media by the well known method of reducing the credibility of the witness, particularly by Charles' loyal buddy Nicholas Soames MP (Winston Churchill's grandson) who not only disliked Diana, but had an axe to grind as she had interfered in his business of making landmines. 

 

There were 2 letters, one given to her lawyer, and she also gave a back up copy to Paul Burrell. (which tells you a lot...) Burrell released his, (his character was also assassinated in the media via a trumped up charge of theft)  but the lawyer's letter took some digging before it was found and  reluctantly  brought to light. It was reproduced in the newspapers. There was no mention of Camilla in it. 

 

The white strobe light evidence was given by an MI6 agent officer Richard Tomlinson who testified it was the chosen method for the assassination of Serbian leader Slobodan Milosovic in a road tunnel, but was never used, so the plot was grafted on to the assassination of Princess Diana. The two complicit bike riders, the first on the scene were never found.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Anna B

[crookesey]

On the side bonking is par for the course in respect of the royal family, Diana would have had a fair idea of the rules of play prior to the marriage.

[Guest ThaBoom]

39 minutes ago, Anna B said:

I don't know where you're getting your information from, Le Van Thanh is an eminent heart surgeon who has a hospital named after him in Vietnam(?) for his pioneering work.

 

Adanson's car was locked from the outside and the car keys found some distance away in the woods.

 

Diana was not paranoid, although she was spooked by the untimely death of her personal protection officer Barry Mannakee who she was alleged to have had an affair with. She was badly maligned in the media by the well known method of reducing the credibility of the witness, particularly by Charles' loyal buddy Nicholas Soames MP (Winston Churchill's grandson) who not only disliked Diana, but had an axe to grind as she had interfered in his business of making landmines. 

 

There were 2 letters, one given to her lawyer, and she also gave a back up copy to Paul Burrell. (which tells you a lot...) Burrell released his, (his character was also assassinated in the media via a trumped up charge of theft)  but the lawyer's letter took some digging before it was found and  reluctantly  brought to light. It was reproduced in the newspapers. There was no mention of Camilla in it. 

 

The white strobe light evidence was given by an MI6 agent officer Richard Tomlinson who testified it was the chosen method for the assassination of Serbian leader Slobodan Milosovic in a road tunnel, but was never used, so the plot was grafted on to the assassination of Princess Diana. The two complicit bike riders, the first on the scene were never found.

 

 

 

 

He too died in an 'accident' which some believe might have had a sinister movement behind it.

 

According to the driver who was involved with the collision,  she mentioned "dazzling lights" before the accident. 

 

I was no fan of Al Fayed, but do think his son was killed, along with Diana- and he  believed that until his death.

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, crookesey said:

On the side bonking is par for the course in respect of the royal family, Diana would have had a fair idea of the rules of play prior to the marriage.

I agree, but remember at the time it wasn't so widely known, in fact it was all about Royal fidelity and happy families - very much the image that was projected by George Vl and Queen Elizabeth ll,  after Edward Vlll even gave up the throne for the woman he loved... 

 

When Diana became a liability, and 'wouldn't go quietly' she threatened the Crown, and that can never happen, so the men in grey suits did what they had to do.

 

Knowing what we know now about the Royal family and the extent of the scandals that in the past have been quietly hushed up, I'm surprised that people still deny this could ever happen.    

Edited September 3, 2023 by Anna B