AndrewC Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 BREAKING NEWS Utilities such as sewerage systems can be upgraded over time to accommodate modern needs, and, in fact, they often are. More to follow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 50 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said: The sewage system was designed for retail shops and the occasional hotel, not clusts of tower blocks, each with over 300 apartments. This may surprise you, but when developers plan major new construction, they liaise with the utility providers to see whether there is sufficient capacity, or whether the infrastructure needs upgrading. The developer will have to pay (at least in part) for such an upgrade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, dave_the_m said: This may surprise you, but when developers plan major new construction, they liaise with the utility providers to see whether there is sufficient capacity, or whether the infrastructure needs upgrading. The developer will have to pay (at least in part) for such an upgrade. And we pay the rest with our council tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, dave_the_m said: This may surprise you, but when developers plan major new construction, they liaise with the utility providers to see whether there is sufficient capacity, or whether the infrastructure needs upgrading. The developer will have to pay (at least in part) for such an upgrade. https://planningapps.sheffield.gov.uk/online-applications/files/042937359EAE483FDAA254AB9D59F595/pdf/22_02691_FUL-1-20808-DS-002_DRAINAGE_STRATEGY_REPORT-1904058.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 15 hours ago, Irene Swaine said: And we pay the rest with our council tax. Er, no. The utility company (be it water, electricity or whatever) would have to cover the rest of the cost, and then would recoup it over time from the standing charges accrued from the extra customers now being supplied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 17 hours ago, Irene Swaine said: And we pay the rest with our council tax. You've genuinely never heard of section 106 money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Delbow said: You've genuinely never heard of section 106 money? The trolley dolleys on the MML clearly never discussed it in the mess room, obviously. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 05/01/2024 at 19:02, Irene Swaine said: And we pay the rest with our council tax. Even if that were true, would it really be that unreasonable? As a society we mostly all accept we need new homes, and local and national authorities have to invest in public utilities and services in order to accommodate growth. You're obviously dead against city centre flats but don't have any issue with suburban housing schemes; what's your understanding of the capacity of sewerage systems around say, the south-east of Sheffield where large new housing estates have been built over the decades on green-field land where virtually no historic sewerage system, not to mention other utilities and public services existed before development, and who do you think paid for all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 10 hours ago, AndrewC said: issue with suburban housing schemes; what's your understanding of the capacity of sewerage systems around say, the south-east of Sheffield where large new housing estates have been built over the decades on green-field land where virtually no historic sewerage system, not to mention other utilities and public services existed before development, and who do you think paid for all that? If there was no existing sewage system, then I trust that the developers will need to install one from scratch and naturally this will be appropriate for usage. Several low capacity pipes, spread out metres apart feeding in to a main is different to what you get with a block of high rise flats, all pressurising one concentrated spot and straining the system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_m Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 19 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said: If there was no existing sewage system, then I trust that the developers will need to install one from scratch and naturally this will be appropriate for usage. Several low capacity pipes, spread out metres apart feeding in to a main is different to what you get with a block of high rise flats, all pressurising one concentrated spot and straining the system. I'm sure all the people who have planned hi-rise buildings across the world over the last century are now slapping their foreheads and exclaiming "if only we'd thought of that!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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