Sunak : Nett Zero But In A 'More Proportionate' Way

[Jack Grey]

1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Suspect they would all pale into insignificance compared to that from Britain's industrial revolution. 🙄

I think a bit of pollution is a small price to pay for the industrial revolution 

 

It's transformed the world forever 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Jack Grey

[Magilla]

4 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

I think pollution is a small price to pay for the industrial revolution 

Pollution, like everything, ultimately has an associated cost... that "small price" is now, the cost of dealing with it later only goes up, dramatically.

 

[Magilla]

32 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

It's transformed the world forever

As will achieving Net Zero, the targets for which are already formenting the beginnings of the next industrial revolution!

 

Just imagine how much it will transform the world this time.

 

 

 

Britain achieved dominance and unimagined economic prosperity in the last one... by being first! 🙄

Edited September 24, 2023 by Magilla

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Pollution, like everything, ultimately has an associated cost... that "small price" is now, the cost of dealing with it later only goes up, dramatically.

 

Absolutely correct,  better to pay the small price now than the big price later.

[Jack Grey]

4 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Absolutely correct,  better to pay the small price now than the big price later.

Nothing we do makes any impact on the global emissions

 

Meanwhile we are being destroyed by USA, China's, India's and Russia's economies 

 

Even Africa will eclipse us if we continue how this road of being a nation of tree huggers 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Jack Grey

[Magilla]

Just now, Jack Grey said:

Nothing we do makes any impact on the global emissions

Even if we completely ignore everyone else, achieving Net Zero is still what we should be doing anyway, purely for the long term cost and energy security benefits it will bring.

 

Then there's the economic advantages that being amongst the first to do it will bring, just like the last industrial revolution.

[Jack Grey]

15 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Even if we completely ignore everyone else, achieving Net Zero is still what we should be doing anyway, purely for the long term cost and energy security benefits it will bring.

 

Then there's the economic advantages that being amongst the first to do it will bring, just like the last industrial revolution.

I disagree 

 

We won't have any heavy industry at all in this country and will be totally dependant on foreign countries which can be hostel in future conflicts

 

We cannot run heavy industry on wind and solar 

[Magilla]

Just now, Jack Grey said:

We won't have any heavy industry at all in this country and will be totally dependant on foreign countries which can be hostel in future conflicts

We already are! Completely... Net Zero, in part, moves the UK away from some of that dependence! 🙄

 

Net Zero and associated targets spur investment and innovation that create the new heavy industries... it sounds like you would prefer they setup elsewhere, or that the UK wasn't in consideration.

 

As before, Britain benefitted significantly in the last industrial revolution, by being first.

 

Conflicts over resources, like food supply, which stands to be seriously impacted (for the reasons already highlighted)... are mitigated by Net Zero.

 

 

 

It doesn't seem like you realise you're describing something that is more likely without commitments to targets help mitigate it, like some of the stuff Net Zero will bring!

[Magilla]

14 minutes ago, Jack Grey said:

We cannot run heavy industry on wind and solar 

Net Zero isn't just wind and solar... Nuclear is part of the mix.

 

Sadly the UK just opted out of ITER, potentially a major new heavy industry building the next generation, fusion based reactors... with Brexit

[Mr Bloke]

5 minutes ago, Magilla said:

We already are! Completely... Net Zero, in part, moves the UK away from some of that dependence! 🙄

 

Net Zero and associated targets spur investment and innovation that create the new heavy industries... it sounds like you would prefer they setup elsewhere, or that the UK wasn't in consideration.

 

As before, Britain benefitted significantly in the last industrial revolution, by being first.

 

Conflicts over resources, like food supply, which stands to be seriously impacted (for the reasons already highlighted)... are mitigated by Net Zero.

 

 

 

It doesn't seem like you realise you're describing something that is more likely without commitments to targets help mitigate it, like some of the stuff Net Zero will bring!