Marcia Grant. 13 Year Old Pleads Guilty.

[Jim Hardie]

4 hours ago, Resident said:

Death by dangerous now carries up to life in prison anyway so judge can give the same sentence as he would for murder. 

He could but I doubt he would. When it was 14 years it was hardly ever applied

[prince al]

Life imprisonment for murder. End of.

Edited October 5, 2023 by prince al

[HeHasRisen]

7 minutes ago, prince al said:

Life imprisonment for murder. End of.

Well given he isn't being convicted of murder that won't be happening. 

[dan_999uk]

 

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A 13-year-old boy who killed his foster mother by running her over in her own car has been sentenced to two years in custody.

Marcia Grant, 60, died outside her home in Sheffield on 5 April.

The teenager, who cannot be named due to his age, pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving in October.

Sentencing him at Sheffield Crown Court on Wednesday, Mrs Justice Juliet May told him custody was "the last resort for a child".

The defendant previously denied a murder charge but admitted a charge of causing death by dangerous driving, which was accepted by prosecutors.

 

 

[HeHasRisen]

What flavour popcorn shall I get?

[Resident]

5 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

What flavour popcorn shall I get?

Toffee. 

As for the sentence it's ridiculously lenient & the judge should be removed from the bench.  

[francypants]

7 minutes ago, Resident said:

Toffee. 

As for the sentence it's ridiculously lenient & the judge should be removed from the bench.  

I totally agree.

[HeHasRisen]

1 hour ago, Resident said:

Toffee. 

As for the sentence it's ridiculously lenient & the judge should be removed from the bench.  

What was the maximum he could have given to a juvenile, can you point us to the sentencing guidelines? 

[tlangdon12]

1 hour ago, francypants said:

I totally agree.

I totally disagree. I think the sentence is ok. The judge in the case is a very senior judge, and sits on the Sentencing Council so I think there will be no overturning this sentence on appeal. 

[Resident]

16 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

What was the maximum he could have given to a juvenile, can you point us to the sentencing guidelines? 

18 years as per any other offender. Age/Maturity comes under the mitigating factors. 

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/causing-death-by-dangerous-driving/

The offender's actions fall under Cat A for culpability under the term "Deliberate decision to ignore the rules of the road and disregard for the risk of danger to others" 

This put the sentence into Cat A sentencing which has a starting point of 12 years with mitigating factors able to reduce to 8 years. (Age and guilty plea deal for DBDD over murder charge in this case) Remorse reduction shouldn't be applied given the comments made by the offender at the time of his arrest, "Looks like I got my first kill"

Going by the actual sentence passed the judge has used Cat C culpability which is ridiculous. At 12 years old (at the time of the offence, you know you aren't allowed to drive (legally on a public road for the pedants) and you certainly know that driving a car at someone could result in death/serious injury (death in this case) which is clearly a Cat A so the absolute minimum sentence in this case should have been 8 years, which IMO still wouldn't be enough. 

CPS also failed to bring charges for carrying a bladed article (knife) found on the offender,  which would have further impacted the sentence.