RJRB Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, cuttsie said: This attack on Israel started just has talks were starting with the Saudi Arabians in the chair to bring stability to the area . I am not ignoring that . Its a fact . It did and for the sake of everyone I hope that peace initiatives continue to be attempted without the numerous attempts to derail them. Regrettably recent events and historical ones such as the fate of Rabin and Sadat make it difficult. ”Blessed are the Peacemakers “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, harvey19 said: So in essence you are blaming Hamas for the deaths of Palestinians. I've made it perfectly clear who I'm blaming and I'm not going to have words put into my mouth by you. The innocent Palestinians who are dying every day are dying at the hands of Israel. This last eruption in the long running situation was caused by the Hamas attack which was savage and uncivilised and which everyone condemns. Israel has a right to defend itself but it's defence should be appropriate. If they were simply attacking terrorists, no one would mind but they are attacking thousands of innocent civilians. They WILL NOT bomb Hamas into submission. Nobody has ever managed to wipe out a terrorist group yet. What happened in Northern Ireland is the answer but, as Hamas cannot be trusted, the world must step in with International Law. There will never be peace whilst Israel occupies other nations land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Another thing I keep reading is the outrage about Palestinians not being Hamas, therefore why are they suffering? I am trying to research the same outrage about Russian athletes, professional Russian and Belarus sportsmen and women being prevented from earning a living because of the actions of their leaders. Can't find any outrage about that. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Al Bundy said: Another thing I keep reading is the outrage about Palestinians not being Hamas, therefore why are they suffering? I am trying to research the same outrage about Russian athletes, professional Russian and Belarus sportsmen and women being prevented from earning a living because of the actions of their leaders. Can't find any outrage about that. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Talking about thousands of children being blown to pieces. Not a couple of hundred fit & well athletes, who're suffering loss of earnings. It is very much different to anyone with normal thought processes. Wouldn't expect you to realise that though, which is why I pointed it out. Edited November 2, 2023 by Organgrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horribleblob Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Al Bundy said: Another thing I keep reading is the outrage about Palestinians not being Hamas, therefore why are they suffering? I am trying to research the same outrage about Russian athletes, professional Russian and Belarus sportsmen and women being prevented from earning a living because of the actions of their leaders. Can't find any outrage about that. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 So, one group is being bombed and their houses destroyed, and the other, smaller, group are being prevented from participating in some international sports events. That's a difficult one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, horribleblob said: So, one group is being bombed and their houses destroyed, and the other, smaller, group are being prevented from participating in some international sports events. That's a difficult one. Well yes, but the principal is the same. Innocent folk are being punished because of someone else, yet no one cared about the Russian folk. Just pointing it out. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, horribleblob said: So, one group is being bombed and their houses destroyed, and the other, smaller, group are being prevented from participating in some international sports events. That's a difficult one. Only a person with no human feelings or morals could compare those two situations side by side and think they are similar. Not surprised it's Bundy. I also think that being blown into little pieces is a bit more than "being punished". Oh well, it's very true that we're all different, thank God. Edited November 2, 2023 by Organgrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Only a person with no human feelings or morals could compare those two situations side by side and think they are similar. Equating terrorists with a sovereign democracy, is the product of a naive, amoral mind! (And leads to the inevitable he said, she said, endless wars) Edited November 2, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Organgrinder said: I've made it perfectly clear who I'm blaming and I'm not going to have words put into my mouth by you. The innocent Palestinians who are dying every day are dying at the hands of Israel. This last eruption in the long running situation was caused by the Hamas attack which was savage and uncivilised and which everyone condemns. Israel has a right to defend itself but it's defence should be appropriate. If they were simply attacking terrorists, no one would mind but they are attacking thousands of innocent civilians. They WILL NOT bomb Hamas into submission. Nobody has ever managed to wipe out a terrorist group yet. What happened in Northern Ireland is the answer but, as Hamas cannot be trusted, the world must step in with International Law. There will never be peace whilst Israel occupies other nations land. When the enemy does not wear uniform or is part of an army how do you know who the terrorist is ? If the terrorists were not acting in collusion with the government why hasn’t the Hamas government handed them over. ? Wasn’t it a legal agreement for the creation of the state of Israel ? Edited November 2, 2023 by harvey19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 A slight tangent: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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