The Yom Kippur War .

[BigPP]

5 hours ago, Magilla said:

Israel drove suitcases stuffed with cash into Gaza to keep Hamas in power:

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-security-forces-escorted-suitcases-cash-hamas-qatar-report-2023-12

 

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Netanyahu's plan all along was to bolster Hamas so that he could justify not entering into talks on a two state solution. The Likud party's Original Party Platform said this:

 

'The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.'

 

https://twitter.com/DalrympleWill

 

'Important: Max Hastings overhearing the young Benjamin Netanyahu dreaming of a war when, "if we get it right, we'll have a chance to get all the Arabs out... We can clear the West Bank and sort out Jerusalem." 

 

Given the leaks we've seen about him trying to bribe Egypt to take what remains of the broken population of Gaza, he clearly thinks this is his moment.'

 

This is ethnic cleansing!

 

[Prettytom]

3 hours ago, RJRB said:

Israel under Netanyahu is fast destroying much of the support that it both needs and deserves.

It might be a Democracy in name,but if there was an election tomorrow then he would be outed by the more moderate.

Meanwhile there is a complete ban on foreign reporters within Gaza.whilst Palestinian and domestic reporters are targeted and killed.

 

 

 

Absolutely. Once the US president starts to express concerns, you know that the landscape is shifting:

 

Israel losing global support over Gaza bombing, Biden says

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67699255

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Al Bundy said:

You can pontificate to your heart's desire, however...

 

The article suggests that the money was for the people of Gaza regardless of how you like to dress it up to suit your narrative.

 

Accept it.

 

👍

No,  we don't accept it.   

Doesn't that sound like a really odd way of delivering aid to a neighbour,  or to anyone else ?

Not exactly the kind of aid package you would expect in the 21st century.

Of course we have an odd bod in our country who likes to accept suitcases full of money too,  but it seems strange that we are not allowed to do it.

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by Organgrinder

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, BigPP said:

Netanyahu's plan all along was to bolster Hamas so that he could justify not entering into talks on a two state solution. The Likud party's Original Party Platform said this:

 

'The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.'

 

https://twitter.com/DalrympleWill

 

'Important: Max Hastings overhearing the young Benjamin Netanyahu dreaming of a war when, "if we get it right, we'll have a chance to get all the Arabs out... We can clear the West Bank and sort out Jerusalem." 

 

Given the leaks we've seen about him trying to bribe Egypt to take what remains of the broken population of Gaza, he clearly thinks this is his moment.'

 

This is ethnic cleansing!

 

[Al Bundy]

23 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

No,  we don't accept it.   

Doesn't that sound like a really odd way of delivering aid to a neighbour,  or to anyone else ?

Not exactly the kind of age package you would expect in the 21st century.

Of course we have an odd bod in our country who likes to accept suitcases full of money too,  but it seems strange that we are not allowed to do it.

 

You do make a good point.

[mafya]

More terrorism by IDF terrorists, executing women and children including babies who were taking refuge=
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-calls-on-biden-admin-to-respond-to-alleged-israeli-execution-style-massacre-of-women-children-and-babies-seeking-refuge-in-gaza-school/

 

I wonder if the outrage will be the same as it was when it was Hamas committing the atrocities?

 

[RJRB]

On 05/12/2023 at 19:11, cuttsie said:

Not one word about those rapes , Those young lasses stripped on their lower half and left for all to see .

Not one word about the lasses being paraded around covered in blood on their lower half .

You and your co pal are truly despicable human beings .. One of you is now admitting that the Palestine men who invaded on that day are indeed terrorists . Words cannot describe you two just pith off once again I am out .

 

The situation now in Gazza should stop , If the Palestinians really do not want Hamas in their midst then they can  give these murdering rapists child killers up . These brave men who started this just a few weeks ago . 

Let us hope that the Israeli army do not lower them selves to commit the atrocities that happened that day if they do then may they rot in hell .

 

Cuttsie.

Its comments such as this that I will not ignore.

Either justify or apologise because from word go I and the other “despicable human being” condemned atrocities committed on Oct 7th by terrorists.

However we have both sought to understand why such an incident occurred .

I believe that my views that also reference the treatment of Palestinians within their own territory  over the last 70 years “helped” to create this latest ongoing disaster for the region.

So there is no hidden agenda against you.

Just reference to your posts which I suggest is the purpose of a Forum

[The_DADDY]

5 minutes ago, mafya said:

More terrorism by IDF terrorists, executing women and children including babies who were taking refuge=
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-calls-on-biden-admin-to-respond-to-alleged-israeli-execution-style-massacre-of-women-children-and-babies-seeking-refuge-in-gaza-school/

 

I wonder if the outrage will be the same as it was when it was Hamas committing the atrocities?

 

The allegation could be true.

Stinks of plain old fashioned propaganda to me though.

[cressida]

Shows the U.N.   and the U.S.A.  have no influence,  what can the Middle East do if the International Law isn't respected?

[hackey lad]

1 minute ago, cressida said:

Shows the U.N.   and the U.S.A.  have no influence,  what can the Middle East do if the International Law isn't respected?

I have asked before about the UN ,what is the point of them . They can say this and that but are ignored by most .