altus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, harvey19 said: And you do not know the details. No. But I didn't state something I didn't know about as a fact like you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, altus said: No. But I didn't state something I didn't know about as a fact like you did. You said, I said we could go on for hours ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, harvey19 said: You said, I said we could go on for hours ! It's not a difference of opinion. You stated something as a fact when you don't know whether it is one or not. I didn't. It's not difficult to put probably/likely/etc. in your post if you're not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, altus said: It's not a difference of opinion. You stated something as a fact when you don't know whether it is one or not. I didn't. It's not difficult to put probably/likely/etc. in your post if you're not sure. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, harvey19 said: How do you know ? Listening to you one would think everyone was just wrongly understood. Every country, organisation, families keep secrets. Even on this forum contributors identities are kept secret. We only know a tiny bit of what is happening in world politics and that is often from propaganda . I suggest you watch different news sources like I suggested earlier and get a better idea ie look at the videos that BBC don’t show us and look at interviews with human rights lawyers and United Nations representatives and then you will have a broader view of the situation instead of being a staunch supporter of Israel and trying to defend the indefensible. Please don’t take my post as being rude or against you as sometimes posts can come across in that way it’s just that sometimes you need to widen your knowledge of something to get a better understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, mafya said: I suggest you watch different news sources like I suggested earlier and get a better idea ie look at the videos that BBC don’t show us and look at interviews with human rights lawyers and United Nations representatives and then you will have a broader view of the situation instead of being a staunch supporter of Israel and trying to defend the indefensible. Please don’t take my post as being rude or against you as sometimes posts can come across in that way it’s just that sometimes you need to widen your knowledge of something to get a better understanding. Is it possible for you to give us any of the links which you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) On 04/11/2023 at 10:15, Organgrinder said: That's perfectly true but there's no law that says every individual has to leave their morals behind and like it. If you are happy with the situation, then that's fine. When the government does something in my name, I'm entitled to say that I don't agree. I wouldn't have been happy about Dresden, Nagasaki and Hiroshima too because I don't believe that two wrong make a right. Hamas started this war knowing full well how Israel would react. And I feel desperately sorry for the civilians who are taking the brunt because of Hamas. Edited November 6, 2023 by hobinfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Hamas started this war knowing full well how Israel would react. And I feel desperately sorry for the civilians who are taking the brunt because of Hamas. I have to agree but what did they think they could achieve because Israel has the USA backing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, harvey19 said: How do you know ? Listening to you one would think everyone was just wrongly understood. Every country, organisation, families keep secrets. Even on this forum contributors identities are kept secret. We only know a tiny bit of what is happening in world politics and that is often from propaganda . It's true that all countries, organisations, etc. keep secrets and I haven't said anybody was wrong. That doesn't explain why you so readily believe what one source says, the one that fits with your view, but won't believe what another one does. The propaganda war is on full throttle at this very moment and I've noticed that both BBC News and SKY News feature far more spokesmen from Israel than they do from Palestine. They both omit to show reaction around the world such as the massive gatherings in New York and neither of them mention how many Jewish people are protesting against the Israeli government. Very, very one sided indeed - I know full well that always happens in times of war but that doesn't make it right. Edited November 7, 2023 by Organgrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Hamas started this war knowing full well how Israel would react. And I feel desperately sorry for the civilians who are taking the brunt because of Hamas. This war didnt start on 7th October 2023 you know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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