Jack Grey Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) This interview sums up the lefties on this forum perfectly It's brilliant 👍 @Al Bundy Edited November 7, 2023 by Jack Grey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 49 minutes ago, mafya said: I suggest you watch different news sources like I suggested earlier and get a better idea ie look at the videos that BBC don’t show us and look at interviews with human rights lawyers and United Nations representatives and then you will have a broader view of the situation instead of being a staunch supporter of Israel and trying to defend the indefensible. Please don’t take my post as being rude or against you as sometimes posts can come across in that way it’s just that sometimes you need to widen your knowledge of something to get a better understanding. No problem with your post. I am not a staunch supporters but try to be objective and not just accept what is put in front of me. I also fully accept propaganda is distributed by all sides in situations like this and bias can give different descriptions of the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, cressida said: I have to agree but what did they think they could achieve because Israel has the USA backing them? I'm quite sure they (Hamas) were hoping it would spread throughout the whole of the middle east because Israel is completely surrounded and has no support in those parts. Israel is vastly outnumbered and, if it were not for the west, would not exist now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Organgrinder said: It's true that all counties, organisations, etc. keep secrets and I haven't said anybody was wrong. That doesn't explain why you so readily believe what one source says, the one that fits with your view, but won't believe what another one does. The propaganda war is on full throttle at this very moment and I've noticed that both BBC News and SKY News feature far more spokesmen from Israel than they do from Palestine. They both omit to show reaction around the world such as the massive gatherings in New York and neither of them mention how many Jewish people are protesting against the Israeli government. Very, very one sided indeed - I know full well that always happens in times of war but that doesn't make it right. You are right and it is often the side which has the best propaganda machine gets most support. Hitler recognised this with The Signal magazine. Edited November 6, 2023 by harvey19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThaBoom Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Hamas started this war knowing full well how Israel would react. And I feel desperately sorry for the civilians who are taking the brunt because of Hamas. Hamas was created by Israel- that's what happens when you constantly oppress a people for over 70 years. "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who doing the oppressing." Melcolm X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: I'm quite sure they (Hamas) were hoping it would spread throughout the whole of the middle east because Israel is completely surrounded and has no support in those parts. Israel is vastly outnumbered and, if it were not for the west, would not exist now anyway. Yes O.G. and it seems to be in the USA's interest to also Back Israel because of its' strategic position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Grey Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Israel has nuclear weapons I think people keep forgetting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cressida said: Yes O.G. and it seems to be in the USA's interest to also Back Israel because of its' strategic position. That's correct. It gives them an operations base right in the middle of the areas of possible trouble, and also close to oil and gas facilities which they may need to protect. 5 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Israel has nuclear weapons I think people keep forgetting that Nobody had forgotten but, they are not a lot of good to use them on your own doorstep and take your own population out and contaminate your own country. Edited November 6, 2023 by Organgrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, cressida said: Is it possible for you to give us any of the links which you use? I watch various news channels ie Al Jazeera, bbc, sky news, France 24, Euro news, and also a couple of others. I find that foreign news channels show pictures and videos of stuff that we don’t see on British domestic news channels. I watch the parts where they are having a debate with various guest people on like human rights lawyers, historians etc and use the information to help me understand the situation bit better. On Al Jazeera the other day they had a British history professor on who was explaining the Balfour declaration and how in the declaration it stated that the rights of the native Palestinians shall not be impeded I think he said, sorry memory sometimes plays up . Im no expert so I do my best to gain knowledge of situations to give me a better understanding. I also read the book 1984 in school and understand how Tv programs can be used to brainwash people. Intresting brief history of the conflict here= https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/9/whats-the-israel-palestine-conflict-about-a-simple-guide 14 minutes ago, Jack Grey said: Israel has nuclear weapons I think people keep forgetting that Though they have not admitted it and locked up the Israeli whistleblower who revealed it and continues to target him= https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2010/06/israeli-nuclear-whistleblower-returned-solitary-confinement/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, mafya said: I watch various news channels ie Al Jazeera, bbc, sky news, France 24, Euro news, and also a couple of others. I find that foreign news channels show pictures and videos of stuff that we don’t see on British domestic news channels. I watch the pats where they are having a debate with various guest people on like human rights lawyers, historians etc and use the information to help me understand the situation bit better. On Al Jazeera the other day they had a British history professor on who was explaining the Balfour declaration and how in the declaration it stated that the rights of the native Palestinians shall not be impeded I think he said, sorry memory sometimes plays up . Im no expert so I do my best to gain knowledge of situations to give me a better understanding. I also read the book 1984 in school and understand how Tv programs can be used to brainwash people. Intresting brief history of the conflict here= https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/9/whats-the-israel-palestine-conflict-about-a-simple-guide Though they have not admitted it and locked up the Israeli whistleblower who revealed it and continues to target him= https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2010/06/israeli-nuclear-whistleblower-returned-solitary-confinement/ Thanks, Harvey will be reading this as well probably.🙂 Just read about the Whistleblower, seems harsh but security is paramount in Israel's eyes, maybe withholding his passport could have been enough. & 'I also read the book 1984 in school and understand how Tv programs can be used to brainwash people.' I can quite believe that. Edited November 6, 2023 by cressida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts